which is why the muslim world sans turkey is such a shithole today
tl;dr We told the saudis to sod off and find someone else to help them look for oil, the people who helped them aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare the... wait for it... wait for it.... oh yeah, the fokin yenks
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on August 02, 2015, 04:16:42 PMtl;dr We told the saudis to sod off and find someone else to help them look for oil, the people who helped them aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare the... wait for it... wait for it.... oh yeah, the fokin yenksbongs helped the saudis before the oil came in, again, as a way to piss on the ottomans
Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on August 02, 2015, 04:18:25 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on August 02, 2015, 04:16:42 PMtl;dr We told the saudis to sod off and find someone else to help them look for oil, the people who helped them aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare the... wait for it... wait for it.... oh yeah, the fokin yenksbongs helped the saudis before the oil came in, again, as a way to piss on the ottomansAnd the yanks helped the mujahideen to fuck with the soviets, neither country is clean when it comes to the middle east. It's a shithole in general, made all the worse by various western countries sticking their oars/dicks/mining picks in at different points in history.
Why don't we blame the sick fucks actually doing it, for once?
Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 02, 2015, 04:30:35 PMWhy don't we blame the sick fucks actually doing it, for once?We do, like everyday. But we should know better by now. I guarantee a new terrorist organization will popup in a few years if the Syrian rebels manage to succeed. Either that or they'll be absorbed by ISIS. I don't see them defeated anytime soon.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on August 02, 2015, 04:22:25 PMAnd the yanks helped the mujahideen to fuck with the sovietsThe Afghan Mojahedin were heroes and martyrs.
And the yanks helped the mujahideen to fuck with the soviets
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on August 02, 2015, 04:22:25 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on August 02, 2015, 04:18:25 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on August 02, 2015, 04:16:42 PMtl;dr We told the saudis to sod off and find someone else to help them look for oil, the people who helped them aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare the... wait for it... wait for it.... oh yeah, the fokin yenksbongs helped the saudis before the oil came in, again, as a way to piss on the ottomansAnd the yanks helped the mujahideen to fuck with the soviets, neither country is clean when it comes to the middle east. It's a shithole in general, made all the worse by various western countries sticking their oars/dicks/mining picks in at different points in history.i never implied the US was any better ;^)let's be real, though, passing stingers out to mujihadeen was not nearly as damaging to the world as propping up the founders of wahhabism in their early days. I'd say backing wahhabism is the single most destructive gift europeans ever gave to the muslim world
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Quote from: Mr Psychologist on August 02, 2015, 04:56:25 PMDepends on your perspective, I don't really have one for them.There's only one perspective to have. They were defending their homeland from invaders. It was literally jihad. A struggle against evil. They were real mojahedin. The Taliban are terrorists.
Depends on your perspective, I don't really have one for them.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on August 02, 2015, 05:02:30 PMQuote from: challengerX on August 02, 2015, 05:00:40 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on August 02, 2015, 04:56:25 PMDepends on your perspective, I don't really have one for them.There's only one perspective to have. They were defending their homeland from invaders. It was literally jihad. A struggle against evil. They were real mojahedin. The Taliban are terrorists.Hmm, well if that was the case then fair enough <.<I'm sure the russkies don't think too fondly of them, but nobody really gives a shit about them either <_<Fuck Russians
Quote from: challengerX on August 02, 2015, 05:00:40 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on August 02, 2015, 04:56:25 PMDepends on your perspective, I don't really have one for them.There's only one perspective to have. They were defending their homeland from invaders. It was literally jihad. A struggle against evil. They were real mojahedin. The Taliban are terrorists.Hmm, well if that was the case then fair enough <.<I'm sure the russkies don't think too fondly of them, but nobody really gives a shit about them either <_<
because Islamic extremism never existed before 1916.
Quote from: career ender on August 02, 2015, 05:52:09 PMbecause Islamic extremism never existed before 1916.^Pirates from the Barbary States were using the Qur'an to justify the kidnapping of American sailors as early as 1802.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 02, 2015, 06:24:18 PMQuote from: career ender on August 02, 2015, 05:52:09 PMbecause Islamic extremism never existed before 1916.^Pirates from the Barbary States were using the Qur'an to justify the kidnapping of American sailors as early as 1802.Muslims have been using the Qu'ran as a justification tool since there has been a Qu'ran.