Glenn Beck's most recent book: "It IS About Islam"

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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Sort of relevant here: every religion has its own shittiness-sanctioned-by-god. Why did other religions put much of that behind them but Islam didn't?

I have an easier time believing that it's because the Middle East (well, to be more specific, most practitioners of the faith) hasn't had the kinds of societal advancement as other parts of the world have experienced, as opposed to it being intrinsic to Islam itself. (Religion and culture are intertwined and influence each other, after all.)

But then, that still doesn't explain why some Westerners will convert and change their views, unless grown adults are more impressionable than I realize.
Well, if my suspicions are right, it's because of immigration from the Middle East and the Middle East being a radical stir-pot. Radicalism begets radicalism; the more it spreads, the more severe it will be.

It's the reason why you can talk to a level-headed and moderate Christian on Peachtree St in Atlanta, but move out to Kentucky and you're literally Satan for not being an evangelical fuckwad. Radical Christians don't migrate to Atlanta in large numbers, but places like 90% of Kentucky haven't changed since the last Great Awakening.
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Then you have the 'moderates' who are maybe not on the same bandwagon as the Jihadists and Islamists, but they're certainly not going out of their way to denounce the former two
why should they have to
If they don't want their religion to be associated with them then it's kind of paramount to clarify that they don't agree with these guys nor condone their actions, don't you think?


 
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Then you have the 'moderates' who are maybe not on the same bandwagon as the Jihadists and Islamists, but they're certainly not going out of their way to denounce the former two
why should they have to
If they don't want their religion to be associated with them then it's kind of paramount to clarify that they don't agree with these guys nor condone their actions, don't you think?
No, not at all. No one is responsible for anyone's actions but their own. There is no imperative for moderate muslims to justify or denounce the actions of their insane cunt lunatic Middle Eastern brethren. That's not their duty.
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Then you have the 'moderates' who are maybe not on the same bandwagon as the Jihadists and Islamists, but they're certainly not going out of their way to denounce the former two
why should they have to
If they don't want their religion to be associated with them then it's kind of paramount to clarify that they don't agree with these guys nor condone their actions, don't you think?
No, not at all. No one is responsible for anyone's actions but their own. There is no imperative for moderate muslims to justify or denounce the actions of their insane cunt lunatic Middle Eastern brethren. That's not their duty.
Well they shouldn't act surprised when people associate them with the degenerate cunts they allegedly have no problem with.


 
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Then you have the 'moderates' who are maybe not on the same bandwagon as the Jihadists and Islamists, but they're certainly not going out of their way to denounce the former two
why should they have to
If they don't want their religion to be associated with them then it's kind of paramount to clarify that they don't agree with these guys nor condone their actions, don't you think?
No, not at all. No one is responsible for anyone's actions but their own. There is no imperative for moderate muslims to justify or denounce the actions of their insane cunt lunatic Middle Eastern brethren. That's not their duty.
Well they shouldn't act surprised when people associate them with the degenerate cunts they allegedly have no problem with.
I agree. No one should be surprised that people are prejudiced cunts.

But that doesn't justify prejudice, obviously.
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Islam is the second largest religion. My issue with the anti-Islamic bent of many pundits is that they paint over a billion people with the same brush.

The reason that there are so many Islamic terrorists is poverty. It's easy to hate a group when your life is shit, and the head religious person is telling you it's God telling them that the outsiders are the reason your kids are starving and armed men killed your friends. The Middle East needs to change. Easier said than done, but the powerful few in that area created a situation where they can live rich lives on the backs of others, and that God allows it because non Muslims are the enemy.

Fix the poverty in that area and the situation rights itself.


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Islam is the second largest religion. My issue with the anti-Islamic bent of many pundits is that they paint over a billion people with the same brush.

The reason that there are so many Islamic terrorists is poverty. It's easy to hate a group when your life is shit, and the head religious person is telling you it's God telling them that the outsiders are the reason your kids are starving and armed men killed your friends. The Middle East needs to change. Easier said than done, but the powerful few in that area created a situation where they can live rich lives on the backs of others, and that God allows it because non Muslims are the enemy.

Fix the poverty in that area and the situation rights itself.
Yeah no, I'm not buying the poverty meme.

South America is one of the most poverty stricken continents on the whole planet, and while despicable shit does occur, there are currently no international wars occuring sans maybe the clamp down of the drug trade.

There are also no honour killings in South America, nor suicide bombers attempting to blow up religious institutions in the name of Pablo Escobar, nor rampant cases of FGM.

I agree that the situation in the Middle East is a melting pot of clusterfuck that can't just be pinned on an entire religion, but to simply say 'poverty' as if it absolves everyone else of responsibility is just an infantile way of looking at things.


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Islam is the second largest religion. My issue with the anti-Islamic bent of many pundits is that they paint over a billion people with the same brush.

The reason that there are so many Islamic terrorists is poverty. It's easy to hate a group when your life is shit, and the head religious person is telling you it's God telling them that the outsiders are the reason your kids are starving and armed men killed your friends. The Middle East needs to change. Easier said than done, but the powerful few in that area created a situation where they can live rich lives on the backs of others, and that God allows it because non Muslims are the enemy.

Fix the poverty in that area and the situation rights itself.
Yeah no, I'm not buying the poverty meme.

South America is one of the most poverty stricken continents on the whole planet, and while despicable shit does occur, there are currently no international wars occuring sans maybe the clamp down of the drug trade.

There are also no honour killings in South America, nor suicide bombers attempting to blow up religious institutions in the name of Pablo Escobar, nor rampant cases of FGM.

I agree that the situation in the Middle East is a melting pot of clusterfuck that can't just be pinned on an entire religion, but to simply say 'poverty' as if it absolves everyone else of responsibility is just an infantile way of looking at things.

Unm... Drug Cartels, mass beheadings, death squads... YES Central and South America has those problems too. So does most of Africa. Every poverty stricken area is war torn. The only difference with the ME is we are the target.


 
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Islam is the second largest religion. My issue with the anti-Islamic bent of many pundits is that they paint over a billion people with the same brush.

The reason that there are so many Islamic terrorists is poverty. It's easy to hate a group when your life is shit, and the head religious person is telling you it's God telling them that the outsiders are the reason your kids are starving and armed men killed your friends. The Middle East needs to change. Easier said than done, but the powerful few in that area created a situation where they can live rich lives on the backs of others, and that God allows it because non Muslims are the enemy.

Fix the poverty in that area and the situation rights itself.
Yeah no, I'm not buying the poverty meme.

South America is one of the most poverty stricken continents on the whole planet, and while despicable shit does occur, there are currently no international wars occuring sans maybe the clamp down of the drug trade.

There are also no honour killings in South America, nor suicide bombers attempting to blow up religious institutions in the name of Pablo Escobar, nor rampant cases of FGM.

I agree that the situation in the Middle East is a melting pot of clusterfuck that can't just be pinned on an entire religion, but to simply say 'poverty' as if it absolves everyone else of responsibility is just an infantile way of looking at things.

Unm... Drug Cartels, mass beheadings, death squads... YES Central and South America has those problems too. So does most of Africa. Every poverty stricken area is war torn. The only difference with the ME is we are the target.
Those can't be attributed to religion or perhaps even poverty though. The reason South America is in the mess it is in today is due to The War On Drugs and lack of emphasis on education.

But as I said, funny how you don't see FGM or suicide bombing in the name of Christianity over there.


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Yeah but they're not doing it in the name of their religion you dense fuck

Does it matter?

If EVERY Muslim acted out, fine. But it's the world's second largest religion. Most of the adherents are in the poorest regions of the planet. 


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Islam is the second largest religion. My issue with the anti-Islamic bent of many pundits is that they paint over a billion people with the same brush.

The reason that there are so many Islamic terrorists is poverty. It's easy to hate a group when your life is shit, and the head religious person is telling you it's God telling them that the outsiders are the reason your kids are starving and armed men killed your friends. The Middle East needs to change. Easier said than done, but the powerful few in that area created a situation where they can live rich lives on the backs of others, and that God allows it because non Muslims are the enemy.

Fix the poverty in that area and the situation rights itself.
Yeah no, I'm not buying the poverty meme.

South America is one of the most poverty stricken continents on the whole planet, and while despicable shit does occur, there are currently no international wars occuring sans maybe the clamp down of the drug trade.

There are also no honour killings in South America, nor suicide bombers attempting to blow up religious institutions in the name of Pablo Escobar, nor rampant cases of FGM.

I agree that the situation in the Middle East is a melting pot of clusterfuck that can't just be pinned on an entire religion, but to simply say 'poverty' as if it absolves everyone else of responsibility is just an infantile way of looking at things.

Unm... Drug Cartels, mass beheadings, death squads... YES Central and South America has those problems too. So does most of Africa. Every poverty stricken area is war torn. The only difference with the ME is we are the target.
Those can't be attributed to religion or perhaps even poverty though. The reason South America is in the mess it is in today is due to The War On Drugs and lack of emphasis on education.

But as I said, funny how you don't see FGM or suicide bombing in the name of Christianity over there.

As I told Splash, it's the world's second largest religion, with most of its adherents living in the poorest regions of the world.


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Yeah but they're not doing it in the name of their religion you dense fuck

Does it matter?

If EVERY Muslim acted out, fine. But it's the world's second largest religion. Most of the adherents are in the poorest regions of the planet.
And we're beginning to see an assimilation problem in the West with adherents outside the poorest regions too. Look up the the Rotherham and Rochdale cases in the UK. Hell, just take a look at the fucking statistics me and Meta posted literally two pages back.


 
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Because the vast majority of muslims are no different than your harmless Christian grandma.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT
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It's the truth.


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Islam is the second largest religion. My issue with the anti-Islamic bent of many pundits is that they paint over a billion people with the same brush.

The reason that there are so many Islamic terrorists is poverty. It's easy to hate a group when your life is shit, and the head religious person is telling you it's God telling them that the outsiders are the reason your kids are starving and armed men killed your friends. The Middle East needs to change. Easier said than done, but the powerful few in that area created a situation where they can live rich lives on the backs of others, and that God allows it because non Muslims are the enemy.

Fix the poverty in that area and the situation rights itself.
Yeah no, I'm not buying the poverty meme.

South America is one of the most poverty stricken continents on the whole planet, and while despicable shit does occur, there are currently no international wars occuring sans maybe the clamp down of the drug trade.

There are also no honour killings in South America, nor suicide bombers attempting to blow up religious institutions in the name of Pablo Escobar, nor rampant cases of FGM.

I agree that the situation in the Middle East is a melting pot of clusterfuck that can't just be pinned on an entire religion, but to simply say 'poverty' as if it absolves everyone else of responsibility is just an infantile way of looking at things.

Unm... Drug Cartels, mass beheadings, death squads... YES Central and South America has those problems too. So does most of Africa. Every poverty stricken area is war torn. The only difference with the ME is we are the target.
Those can't be attributed to religion or perhaps even poverty though. The reason South America is in the mess it is in today is due to The War On Drugs and lack of emphasis on education.

But as I said, funny how you don't see FGM or suicide bombing in the name of Christianity over there.

As I told Splash, it's the world's second largest religion, with most of its adherents living in the poorest regions of the world.
You're attributing correlation with causation. Just because some Middle Eastern countries happen to be poor does not equate to a direct causation of its problems.

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan and Iran aren't even that poor anyway, so you kind of need to clarify on this one.
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Yeah but they're not doing it in the name of their religion you dense fuck

Does it matter?

If EVERY Muslim acted out, fine. But it's the world's second largest religion. Most of the adherents are in the poorest regions of the planet.
And we're beginning to see an assimilation problem in the West with adherents outside the poorest regions too. Look up the the Rotherham and Rochdale cases in the UK. Hell, just take a look at the fucking statistics me and Meta posted literally two pages back.

They're they 1st generation of immigrants. Every group has assimilation problems when they come. Moroccans assimilated into the French culture just fine. It took a generation, but they did it. Arabs and the rest will assimilate as well.


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Islam is the second largest religion. My issue with the anti-Islamic bent of many pundits is that they paint over a billion people with the same brush.

The reason that there are so many Islamic terrorists is poverty. It's easy to hate a group when your life is shit, and the head religious person is telling you it's God telling them that the outsiders are the reason your kids are starving and armed men killed your friends. The Middle East needs to change. Easier said than done, but the powerful few in that area created a situation where they can live rich lives on the backs of others, and that God allows it because non Muslims are the enemy.

Fix the poverty in that area and the situation rights itself.
Yeah no, I'm not buying the poverty meme.

South America is one of the most poverty stricken continents on the whole planet, and while despicable shit does occur, there are currently no international wars occuring sans maybe the clamp down of the drug trade.

There are also no honour killings in South America, nor suicide bombers attempting to blow up religious institutions in the name of Pablo Escobar, nor rampant cases of FGM.

I agree that the situation in the Middle East is a melting pot of clusterfuck that can't just be pinned on an entire religion, but to simply say 'poverty' as if it absolves everyone else of responsibility is just an infantile way of looking at things.

Unm... Drug Cartels, mass beheadings, death squads... YES Central and South America has those problems too. So does most of Africa. Every poverty stricken area is war torn. The only difference with the ME is we are the target.
Those can't be attributed to religion or perhaps even poverty though. The reason South America is in the mess it is in today is due to The War On Drugs and lack of emphasis on education.

But as I said, funny how you don't see FGM or suicide bombing in the name of Christianity over there.

As I told Splash, it's the world's second largest religion, with most of its adherents living in the poorest regions of the world.
You're attributing correlation with causation. Just because some Middle Eastern countries happen to be poor does not equate to a direct causation of its problems.

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan and Iran aren't even that poor anyway, so you kind of need to clarify on this one.

But not everyone in those countries are wealthy... Go there and see super wealthy families lording over people starving to death.


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Yeah but they're not doing it in the name of their religion you dense fuck

Does it matter?

If EVERY Muslim acted out, fine. But it's the world's second largest religion. Most of the adherents are in the poorest regions of the planet.
And we're beginning to see an assimilation problem in the West with adherents outside the poorest regions too. Look up the the Rotherham and Rochdale cases in the UK. Hell, just take a look at the fucking statistics me and Meta posted literally two pages back.

They're they 1st generation of immigrants. Every group has assimilation problems when they come. Moroccans assimilated into the French culture just fine. It took a generation, but they did it. Arabs and the rest will assimilate as well.
What the fuck are you slavering now? Moroccans didn't emigrate to France. France colonised Morocco.

I'm talking about the Muslim immigrants in the UK that have failed to assimilate properly which has resulted in horrific ramifications for British children, and it's being going on for longer than a generation.
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Islam is the second largest religion. My issue with the anti-Islamic bent of many pundits is that they paint over a billion people with the same brush.

The reason that there are so many Islamic terrorists is poverty. It's easy to hate a group when your life is shit, and the head religious person is telling you it's God telling them that the outsiders are the reason your kids are starving and armed men killed your friends. The Middle East needs to change. Easier said than done, but the powerful few in that area created a situation where they can live rich lives on the backs of others, and that God allows it because non Muslims are the enemy.

Fix the poverty in that area and the situation rights itself.
Yeah no, I'm not buying the poverty meme.

South America is one of the most poverty stricken continents on the whole planet, and while despicable shit does occur, there are currently no international wars occuring sans maybe the clamp down of the drug trade.

There are also no honour killings in South America, nor suicide bombers attempting to blow up religious institutions in the name of Pablo Escobar, nor rampant cases of FGM.

I agree that the situation in the Middle East is a melting pot of clusterfuck that can't just be pinned on an entire religion, but to simply say 'poverty' as if it absolves everyone else of responsibility is just an infantile way of looking at things.

Unm... Drug Cartels, mass beheadings, death squads... YES Central and South America has those problems too. So does most of Africa. Every poverty stricken area is war torn. The only difference with the ME is we are the target.
Those can't be attributed to religion or perhaps even poverty though. The reason South America is in the mess it is in today is due to The War On Drugs and lack of emphasis on education.

But as I said, funny how you don't see FGM or suicide bombing in the name of Christianity over there.

As I told Splash, it's the world's second largest religion, with most of its adherents living in the poorest regions of the world.
You're attributing correlation with causation. Just because some Middle Eastern countries happen to be poor does not equate to a direct causation of its problems.

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan and Iran aren't even that poor anyway, so you kind of need to clarify on this one.

But not everyone in those countries are wealthy... Go there and see super wealthy families lording over people starving to death.
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Saudi Arabians generally enjoy a decent standard of living, due in large part to government programs designed to minimize poverty. Saudi citizens are given free education (although enrollment is not required and has historically been low, accounting for relatively high illiteracy rates) and health care, and all adult Saudis are entitled to a plot of land and a loan of US$80,000 with which to build a house.


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Yeah but they're not doing it in the name of their religion you dense fuck

Does it matter?

If EVERY Muslim acted out, fine. But it's the world's second largest religion. Most of the adherents are in the poorest regions of the planet.
And we're beginning to see an assimilation problem in the West with adherents outside the poorest regions too. Look up the the Rotherham and Rochdale cases in the UK. Hell, just take a look at the fucking statistics me and Meta posted literally two pages back.

They're they 1st generation of immigrants. Every group has assimilation problems when they come. Moroccans assimilated into the French culture just fine. It took a generation, but they did it. Arabs and the rest will assimilate as well.
What the fuck are you slavering now? Moroccans didn't emigrate to France. France colonised Morocco.

I'm talking about the Muslim immigrants in the UK that have failed to assimilate properly which has resulted in horrific ramifications for British, and it's being going on for longer than a generation.

Yes... But an immigrant is an immigrant. If anything, there should have been more problems.

And the reason the UK is having problems is that they aren't handling the influx correctly.


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Yeah but they're not doing it in the name of their religion you dense fuck

Does it matter?

If EVERY Muslim acted out, fine. But it's the world's second largest religion. Most of the adherents are in the poorest regions of the planet.
And we're beginning to see an assimilation problem in the West with adherents outside the poorest regions too. Look up the the Rotherham and Rochdale cases in the UK. Hell, just take a look at the fucking statistics me and Meta posted literally two pages back.

They're they 1st generation of immigrants. Every group has assimilation problems when they come. Moroccans assimilated into the French culture just fine. It took a generation, but they did it. Arabs and the rest will assimilate as well.
What the fuck are you slavering now? Moroccans didn't emigrate to France. France colonised Morocco.

I'm talking about the Muslim immigrants in the UK that have failed to assimilate properly which has resulted in horrific ramifications for British, and it's being going on for longer than a generation.

Yes... But an immigrant is an immigrant. If anything, there should have been more problems.

And the reason the UK is having problems is that they aren't handling the influx correctly.
So you do agree there is a problem with Islamic values both in the West and in the Middle East then? It has really nothing to do with numbers. It's how they integrate our values when immigrating here.


 
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Yeah but they're not doing it in the name of their religion you dense fuck

Does it matter?

If EVERY Muslim acted out, fine. But it's the world's second largest religion. Most of the adherents are in the poorest regions of the planet.
And we're beginning to see an assimilation problem in the West with adherents outside the poorest regions too. Look up the the Rotherham and Rochdale cases in the UK. Hell, just take a look at the fucking statistics me and Meta posted literally two pages back.

They're they 1st generation of immigrants. Every group has assimilation problems when they come. Moroccans assimilated into the French culture just fine. It took a generation, but they did it. Arabs and the rest will assimilate as well.
What the fuck are you slavering now? Moroccans didn't emigrate to France. France colonised Morocco.

I'm talking about the Muslim immigrants in the UK that have failed to assimilate properly which has resulted in horrific ramifications for British, and it's being going on for longer than a generation.

Yes... But an immigrant is an immigrant. If anything, there should have been more problems.

And the reason the UK is having problems is that they aren't handling the influx correctly.
So you do agree there is a problem with Islamic values both in the West and in the Middle East then? It has really nothing to do with numbers. It's how they integrate our values when immigrating here.

There is a problem with what values are taught to whom. Much of Europe is letting in the very poor, which are the ones who have been taught it's God's will to hate. The wealthy families don't really blow shit up.

They should be admitting the upper middle class, and then using them as a bridge for every one else. Show the path to a better life, and then let them in.


 
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Sort of relevant here: every religion has its own shittiness-sanctioned-by-god. Why did plenty of other religions put much of that behind them, except for Islam?

I have an easier time believing that it's because the Middle East (well, to be more specific, most practitioners of the faith) hasn't had the kinds of societal advancement as other parts of the world have experienced, as opposed to it being intrinsic to Islam itself. (Religion and culture are intertwined and influence each other, after all.)

But then, that still doesn't explain why some Westerners will convert and change their views, unless grown adults are more impressionable than I realize.
Islam helped support science for the better part of a couple of centuries before backwards idealists brought it back down. Baghdad used to be the pillar of the scientific world. A hub for knowledge.

The problem is it didn't go through a religious renaissance like Christianity and Judaism did. 

Edit: And like others said, it doesn't help that radicalism breeds radicalism. That and wars were constantly waged in those areas which helped stagnate it.
Last Edit: October 12, 2015, 12:20:50 PM by Luciana


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Get fucked kid.
I'm reading over this and loving the arguing, but please no "kid" stuff. It just reminds me of some 14 year old on xbox who keeps saying "kid kid kid!" to sound superior over the fuck he's crying over.
heck off kid