Geert Wilders convicted of hate speech

 
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Populist anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders has been convicted in a hate speech trial by a court in the Netherlands.

Wilders was found guilty of insulting a group and inciting discrimination after leading a chant against having Moroccans in the country.

But Judge Hendrik Steenhuis resisted prosecutors’ calls to fine him €5,000 and said the court would not impose a sentence on Wilders.

Instead, he said the conviction alone was punishment enough for a politician who has been democratically elected.


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Honestly trying to incite hatred against a groups is the wrong way to go. If a minority becomes a significant part of your population, it is best to try to incorporate them into your country.

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Rightfully so. A very sound judgment and correct application of the law, in my opinion.
You really think valuable legal resources should be spent on a political speech, however distasteful it may be?

Just a little addendum here, Wilders has risen dramatically in the polls since his conviction.

Seeing as how you're such a prominent critic of populism, perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to excuse the forces that are patently galvanizing it.


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>thoughtcrime

Hate speech sounds like a tremendously stupid "crime," in my opinion. I would assume that people are allowed freedom of thought, even if those thoughts aren't the most pleasant ones, so punishing those who encourage unpleasant modes of thought seems more than a little totalitarian.
The "inciting violence" argument is bullshit. He's not giving orders or anything of the sort. If someone decides to go out and commit a crime after listening to hate speech, it's their own fault--they were the one who committed the crime. Law hinges on the fact that people are allowed to make their own decisions.
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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
I said his conviction was deserved and that the judgment was sound. Whether he should've been prosecuted and tried is something else entirely. The fact that it's a political speech doesn't matter either, as it was held outside of parliament.
How exactly is it "a correct application of the law" to convict someone and not even bother following through with anything? Just seems like a tremendous waste of time which will only end up drawing attention to a non issue and a clearly undesirable candidate. The last thing this guy needs is a victim status for his supporters and the disenfranchised.

You're a smart guy Flee, no doubt, but you have this tendency to view political issues from a really narrow prism. Have you not learned anything from Brexit and Trump? I warned you about the invigoration of the far right from this kind of apologetic rhetoric about a year ago and you tacitly laughed it off, so don't act surprised when far right populism continues to infect your beloved EU.
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That's not really true. Wilders gained 7 seats during the 4 weeks before his trial with 2 more following the week of his conviction. He's been gaining popularity steadily over the past few months and this is entirely in line with his recent surge in popularity. Not at all "dramatically risen" compared to what happened before, despite what certain headlines might have you believe. "The polls" are also a single online poll which is pretty notorious in the Benelux for its inaccuracy.
According to Maurice de Hond and IPSOS his party now leads 10 seats after his conviction. Not really sure what "online polls" you're referring to which you deem unreliable, but the ones I've been looking into corroborate with my statement.
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>convicted of hate speech

Goddamn, Europe is such a shithole.


 
 
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