A French government committee has heard testimony, suppressed by the French government at the time and not published online until this week, that the killers in the Bataclan tortured their victims on the second floor of the club.The chief police witness in Parliament said that an investigating officer, tears streaming down his face, rushed out of the Bataclan and vomited in front of him just after seeing the disfigured bodies.According to this testimony, Wahhabist killers apparently gouged out eyes, castrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disemboweled some poor souls. Women were stabbed in the genitals β and the torture was, victims told police, filmed for Daesh or Islamic State propaganda. For that reason, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families, investigators said.But prosecutors claimed these reports of torture were βa rumorβ on the grounds that sharp knives were not found at the scene. They also claimed that maybe shrapnel had caused the injuries.
castrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths.
Is there any idea as to why they tried to cover this up?
As much as I don't like the idea of innocent people getting caught up in that mess, war and death is already too ingrained in their culture as it is and everything else that's problematic in those societies is toxic to the rest of the world.
Quote from: gats on July 16, 2016, 02:22:54 PMQuote from: Varg on July 16, 2016, 08:40:51 AMAs much as I don't like the idea of innocent people getting caught up in that mess, war and death is already too ingrained in their culture as it is and everything else that's problematic in those societies is toxic to the rest of the world. Literally what? You're talking out of your ass you dumb fuck. Syria is in a state of civil war, this is not limited to the Middle East hence a billion other civil wars through the world at different stages of time but you know when "Western powers" pour weapons into a country it's obviously going to go to shit, you can't then blame the region for "war loving culture".The US is largely responsible for the state of things in Arab countries right now.
Quote from: Varg on July 16, 2016, 08:40:51 AMAs much as I don't like the idea of innocent people getting caught up in that mess, war and death is already too ingrained in their culture as it is and everything else that's problematic in those societies is toxic to the rest of the world. Literally what? You're talking out of your ass you dumb fuck. Syria is in a state of civil war, this is not limited to the Middle East hence a billion other civil wars through the world at different stages of time but you know when "Western powers" pour weapons into a country it's obviously going to go to shit, you can't then blame the region for "war loving culture".
they didnt feel the need to disseminate the specifics of the torture to the public in the immediate aftermath.
Quote from: Varg on July 18, 2016, 05:47:41 PMQuote from: gats on July 16, 2016, 03:55:44 PMQuote from: Varg on July 16, 2016, 03:37:42 PMQuote from: gats on July 16, 2016, 02:22:54 PMQuote from: Varg on July 16, 2016, 08:40:51 AMAs much as I don't like the idea of innocent people getting caught up in that mess, war and death is already too ingrained in their culture as it is and everything else that's problematic in those societies is toxic to the rest of the world. Literally what? You're talking out of your ass you dumb fuck. Syria is in a state of civil war, this is not limited to the Middle East hence a billion other civil wars through the world at different stages of time but you know when "Western powers" pour weapons into a country it's obviously going to go to shit, you can't then blame the region for "war loving culture".The US is largely responsible for the state of things in Arab countries right now.No it isn't.Oh yeah sure, the US providing a fuckton of weapons and "democracy" to groups and countries who now want us all dead definitely didn't perpetuate things or make it worse. I never said they love war, just that it's their reality right now.Growing up in countries constantly stricken with war changes the way people are.muh muslim victimsI guess that's why Iran in 1979 which had not been in a war since fucking forever was full of fanatic Muslim lunatics in the streets engaging in a coup. Really makes you think
Quote from: gats on July 16, 2016, 03:55:44 PMQuote from: Varg on July 16, 2016, 03:37:42 PMQuote from: gats on July 16, 2016, 02:22:54 PMQuote from: Varg on July 16, 2016, 08:40:51 AMAs much as I don't like the idea of innocent people getting caught up in that mess, war and death is already too ingrained in their culture as it is and everything else that's problematic in those societies is toxic to the rest of the world. Literally what? You're talking out of your ass you dumb fuck. Syria is in a state of civil war, this is not limited to the Middle East hence a billion other civil wars through the world at different stages of time but you know when "Western powers" pour weapons into a country it's obviously going to go to shit, you can't then blame the region for "war loving culture".The US is largely responsible for the state of things in Arab countries right now.No it isn't.Oh yeah sure, the US providing a fuckton of weapons and "democracy" to groups and countries who now want us all dead definitely didn't perpetuate things or make it worse. I never said they love war, just that it's their reality right now.Growing up in countries constantly stricken with war changes the way people are.
Quote from: Varg on July 16, 2016, 03:37:42 PMQuote from: gats on July 16, 2016, 02:22:54 PMQuote from: Varg on July 16, 2016, 08:40:51 AMAs much as I don't like the idea of innocent people getting caught up in that mess, war and death is already too ingrained in their culture as it is and everything else that's problematic in those societies is toxic to the rest of the world. Literally what? You're talking out of your ass you dumb fuck. Syria is in a state of civil war, this is not limited to the Middle East hence a billion other civil wars through the world at different stages of time but you know when "Western powers" pour weapons into a country it's obviously going to go to shit, you can't then blame the region for "war loving culture".The US is largely responsible for the state of things in Arab countries right now.No it isn't.
The rise of ISIS and the current instability in the region CAN be attributed to the US, however.
French government suppressed the fact that hostages at Bataclan were tortured
