Quote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 03:39:54 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:38:03 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 03:36:54 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:36:07 PMBecause they're words we developed to refer to people who have a penis or have a vagina.Great. My argument is that we should evolve past that. That's an archaic way of doing things.There's nothing archaic about it. It's how you define sex.Yes, and my argument is that we shouldn't do it that way anymore.There's no other scientific way to do it.
Quote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:38:03 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 03:36:54 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:36:07 PMBecause they're words we developed to refer to people who have a penis or have a vagina.Great. My argument is that we should evolve past that. That's an archaic way of doing things.There's nothing archaic about it. It's how you define sex.Yes, and my argument is that we shouldn't do it that way anymore.
Quote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 03:36:54 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:36:07 PMBecause they're words we developed to refer to people who have a penis or have a vagina.Great. My argument is that we should evolve past that. That's an archaic way of doing things.There's nothing archaic about it. It's how you define sex.
Quote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:36:07 PMBecause they're words we developed to refer to people who have a penis or have a vagina.Great. My argument is that we should evolve past that. That's an archaic way of doing things.
Because they're words we developed to refer to people who have a penis or have a vagina.
Is it worth reading the whole thread at this point?
Quote from: Cadenza on October 18, 2015, 04:11:58 AMQuote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 01:21:55 AMas if respecting other people and their boundaries and generally not being a total cunt to everyone you meet just because you can is some sort of new revolution that them gol-dern lefties have brought upon the world to wreak havoc. I'm not really gonna touch on that too much because the stupidity in that sentence should be pretty damn obvious (hint hint: it's always been a thing to generally not be a cunt and the fact that we've started extending that thing to more and more people by making words like "nigger", "faggot", "trannie", and so on unacceptable only shows a wider range of acceptance, not fucking censorship and the elimination of free speech),You know the entire tone of your post makes it seem like you're quite fine with being a total cunt to people you disagree with, what with the constant insults and holier than thou attitude you've got going on; so already I don't see much point in having a serious discussion.But I will say this; I can tolerate a very specific kind of censorship, consider a classroom that teaches say, mathematics; of all the possible things that could be discussed, everything but maths is censored, and then of every possible math topic that could be discussed, everything but the specific skills being taught is censored, and even then the wider implications of those ideas are censored to focus on simply learning what's in the curriculum. THAT is the only acceptable form of censorship because that is the only kind that has clear and tangible benefits to everyone involved, and I would argue that it is impossible to teach someone something without censoring information to some degree. If you want to get technical then this really is just creating context, but I digress.Now without even discussing how censoring words only gives them more power and draws people to them, I want to make it very clear that you fundamentally misunderstand the concept of free speech. It is entirely about being able to say things that are offensive, things that some people would rather be hidden away and never mentioned, about being able to say something that everyone around you, maybe even the entire world, disagrees with. It is almost heartbreakingly said that you think free speech means "you are allowed to say the words that we have approved of and nothing else".You've misunderstood my point if that's what you think I think free speech means.Of course you're allowed to say anything you'd like, so long as there is no actual physical consequence associated with it. However, others are perfectly allowed to call you out on what you're saying, and should rightfully do so if it's against what is considered socially acceptable.The KKK and Westboro Baptist church both exist in today's society and I fully support their right to without supporting the groups themselves - but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't take a metaphorical shit all over one if they tried picketing outside my house.
Quote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 01:21:55 AMas if respecting other people and their boundaries and generally not being a total cunt to everyone you meet just because you can is some sort of new revolution that them gol-dern lefties have brought upon the world to wreak havoc. I'm not really gonna touch on that too much because the stupidity in that sentence should be pretty damn obvious (hint hint: it's always been a thing to generally not be a cunt and the fact that we've started extending that thing to more and more people by making words like "nigger", "faggot", "trannie", and so on unacceptable only shows a wider range of acceptance, not fucking censorship and the elimination of free speech),You know the entire tone of your post makes it seem like you're quite fine with being a total cunt to people you disagree with, what with the constant insults and holier than thou attitude you've got going on; so already I don't see much point in having a serious discussion.But I will say this; I can tolerate a very specific kind of censorship, consider a classroom that teaches say, mathematics; of all the possible things that could be discussed, everything but maths is censored, and then of every possible math topic that could be discussed, everything but the specific skills being taught is censored, and even then the wider implications of those ideas are censored to focus on simply learning what's in the curriculum. THAT is the only acceptable form of censorship because that is the only kind that has clear and tangible benefits to everyone involved, and I would argue that it is impossible to teach someone something without censoring information to some degree. If you want to get technical then this really is just creating context, but I digress.Now without even discussing how censoring words only gives them more power and draws people to them, I want to make it very clear that you fundamentally misunderstand the concept of free speech. It is entirely about being able to say things that are offensive, things that some people would rather be hidden away and never mentioned, about being able to say something that everyone around you, maybe even the entire world, disagrees with. It is almost heartbreakingly said that you think free speech means "you are allowed to say the words that we have approved of and nothing else".
as if respecting other people and their boundaries and generally not being a total cunt to everyone you meet just because you can is some sort of new revolution that them gol-dern lefties have brought upon the world to wreak havoc. I'm not really gonna touch on that too much because the stupidity in that sentence should be pretty damn obvious (hint hint: it's always been a thing to generally not be a cunt and the fact that we've started extending that thing to more and more people by making words like "nigger", "faggot", "trannie", and so on unacceptable only shows a wider range of acceptance, not fucking censorship and the elimination of free speech),
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 18, 2015, 02:50:10 AMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:20:57 AMYou're awfully rambly, though. You probably could've made your points in one or two paragraphs. Jus' sayin.There is nothing wrong with saying something that should take one sentence in the form of several extended run on sentences that don't appear to have any actual point other than just typing and typing because this is how I would ordinarily talk in the real world.Especially when asked about something in particular to ramble about and I assure you that this post has nothing at all to do with a tongue in cheek drag-it-out post just to prove a point.Seriously, if you ever talk to Psy he had a tendency to ramble and go off topic with little details. Especially if you get him going on something like 40k.
Quote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:20:57 AMYou're awfully rambly, though. You probably could've made your points in one or two paragraphs. Jus' sayin.There is nothing wrong with saying something that should take one sentence in the form of several extended run on sentences that don't appear to have any actual point other than just typing and typing because this is how I would ordinarily talk in the real world.Especially when asked about something in particular to ramble about and I assure you that this post has nothing at all to do with a tongue in cheek drag-it-out post just to prove a point.
You're awfully rambly, though. You probably could've made your points in one or two paragraphs. Jus' sayin.
Quote from: LC on October 18, 2015, 04:20:16 AMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 18, 2015, 02:50:10 AMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:20:57 AMYou're awfully rambly, though. You probably could've made your points in one or two paragraphs. Jus' sayin.There is nothing wrong with saying something that should take one sentence in the form of several extended run on sentences that don't appear to have any actual point other than just typing and typing because this is how I would ordinarily talk in the real world.Especially when asked about something in particular to ramble about and I assure you that this post has nothing at all to do with a tongue in cheek drag-it-out post just to prove a point.Seriously, if you ever talk to Psy he had a tendency to ramble and go off topic with little details. Especially if you get him going on something like 40k.Psy tell me about 40K plz
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