He told the French National Assembly that the Islamist gunmen who murdered 17 people in Paris had wanted to kill the "spirit of France", but had failed.

He was speaking after funeral ceremonies were held for seven of the people who died in last week's attacks.

This week's edition of the magazine targeted by the gunmen is to show a cartoon depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

Charlie Hebdo's previous depictions of the Prophet are said to to have prompted the attack on its offices which left 12 people dead, including the satirical magazine's editor and four other cartoonists.

The cartoon shows the Prophet weeping while holding a sign saying "Je suis Charlie" ("I am Charlie") - a slogan widely used following the attack on the magazine to express support - under the headline "All is forgiven".

French lawmakers - meeting in the National Assembly for the first time since the events of last week - observed a minute's silence for the victims before singing the national anthem, the Marseillaise.

Mr Valls told them the huge unity demonstrations attended by millions across France on Sunday were a "magnificent response" to the violence, before adding: "We are at war against jihadism and terrorism... but France is not at war against Islam and Muslims."

He announced a series of measures that "draw on the lessons" from last week's attacks, including creating "specific quarters" for jihadists in prisons and tighter surveillance of the internet and social media.

"We must respond to this exceptional situation with exceptional measures," said the prime minister, but ruled out "exceptional measures which deviate from the principles of law and values".

France's defence ministry has deployed 10,000 troops at sites including synagogues, mosques and airports in response to the attacks.

voted unanimously to exponentially increase air strikes in Iraq.

I thought they were already part of the "war on terror" with USA, UK and Australia?

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 13, 2015, 03:35:27 PM

Quote from: αΌˆΟ€ΟŒΞ»Ξ»Ο‰Ξ½ on January 13, 2015, 03:33:53 PM

Well, the 'War on Terror' hasn't exactly been a success. Yes, we weakened them in countries like Afghanistan - to see their strength grow in places like Yemen and North Africa.

Is that a reason to stop fighting?

No, but it's a reason for countries to stop saying "We're going to fight terror!", and then just simply continue bombing places with no concrete plan as to how you will assist the nation's government in continuing to fight extremism.

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 13, 2015, 03:42:55 PM

Quote from: αΌˆΟ€ΟŒΞ»Ξ»Ο‰Ξ½ on January 13, 2015, 03:41:34 PM

"We just need to keep bombing them into submission!" won't work to finally eradicate extremism.

Literally nobody here or in France's National Assembly is claiming that it will.

Where did I say that it was limited to solely those two groups?

Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 13, 2015, 03:46:11 PM

Sigh

I suppose the US and UK will follow up with this "extra surveillance" shite as well.

If we really want to combat terrorism then we shouldn't be giving these cunts what they want. Privacy gets chipped away in the name of public safety and the terrorists will still find ways to kill people irregardless of how intrusive the government becomes.

Standard procedure I suppose.

Surveillance can be done right--I hope the French government manages to do it.

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 13, 2015, 03:40:47 PM

Quote from: αΌˆΟ€ΟŒΞ»Ξ»Ο‰Ξ½ on January 13, 2015, 03:38:01 PM

No, but it's a reason for countries to stop saying "We're going to fight terror!", and then just simply continue bombing places with no concrete plan as to how you will assist the nation's government in continuing to fight extremism.

I didn't know you had access to France's plans and blueprints.

What always seems to happen is that the politicians and military folks forget that "no plan survives contact with the enemy." I'm not saying all plans are destined to fail, but these things are declared in haste without much thought put into it. It's reactionary, it's emotional, and it's fatally flawed.

Quote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 03:52:19 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 13, 2015, 03:40:47 PM

Quote from: αΌˆΟ€ΟŒΞ»Ξ»Ο‰Ξ½ on January 13, 2015, 03:38:01 PM

No, but it's a reason for countries to stop saying "We're going to fight terror!", and then just simply continue bombing places with no concrete plan as to how you will assist the nation's government in continuing to fight extremism.

I didn't know you had access to France's plans and blueprints.

What always seems to happen is that the politicians and military folks forget that "no plan survives contact with the enemy." I'm not saying all plans are destined to fail, but these things are declared in haste without much thought put into it. It's reactionary, it's emotional, and it's fatally flawed.

I've said before how there's little appetite for a French Patriot Act. The French intelligence services, as Raptor said, are exceptionally competent. I have more confidence in the French than I do in the British or the Americans.

Quote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 04:08:44 PM

Oh wait, not so fast.

Were you under some illusion that the French don't do this? Fuck, the Swedish do it, too.

The difference is that the French don't make a watch-list which is nearly half full of people not connected to terrorism in any way, use porn to discredit radicals or collect the medical histories of journalists' families. . .