For once the Greek government is kind-of in the right (and in the wrong, too)

 
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The Greek government is angry that the EU released a statement without its consent.
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The new Greek government has spoken out against the EU partners over the statement that lays the blame for Saturday’s fatal attack on the Ukrainian city of Mariupol on Russia. Hungary, Slovakia, and Austria voiced similar objections earlier.

The government, headed by Prime Minister Alexis Tripras, said in a press release on Tuesday that “the aforementioned statement was released without the prescribed procedure to obtain consent by the member states, and particularly without ensuring the consent of Greece."

“In this context, it is underlined that Greece does not consent to this statement,” Tsipras added.

He voiced his “discontent” in a phone call to EU foreign relations chief Federica Mogherini.

The EU statement was published on Tuesday morning, saying that all 28 EU leaders had agreed that Russia bears “responsibility” for a rocket attack on the city of Mariupol that left 30 people dead on Saturday.

Brussels objected that the Greek government had been informed about the statement on Russia and Ukraine, but no one had contradicted it until Tuesday.

European Council President Donald Tusk initiated the EU statement, and claimed he had called Tsipras and the “sherpas” - top officials taking care of EU issues in each leader's office.

One EU diplomat reportedly said that Greece had attempted to remove the line blaming Russia for the Mariupol killing. Also, Austria, Hungary, and Slovakia tried, and failed, to “water down” the communiqué, the EU Observer website stated.

It’s the first time that such a situation - a retroactive abjuration of an EU line - has happened, EU Council official stressed.

Foreign affairs analyst Serja Trifkovich told RT that other countries might follow suit and oppose Brussels’ policies on the Ukrainian crisis.

“It’s very difficult in the EU to break the ranks. Now that Greece has made a move, I confidently expect that the Hungarians in particular, but perhaps also Slovakia and Cyprus, will [find] the courage to say no to the dictate from Brussels.”

The EU statement on Russia and Ukraine also urged for more sanctions, for considering “any appropriate action” against Moscow.

One of the measures being mulled is to block Russia from the global interbank SWIFT payment system.

Economist Max Fraad Wolff told RT that this would be a drastic measure.

“Let’s be fair and honest here: if you’re cut off from SWIFT, your ability to have any kind of normal business flow with the global commerce community is hampered.”

However, what he envisages is that “cooler heads will prevail” and that “we won’t see Russia cut off from the SWIFT system,” as it is “in very few parties’ long-term interests.”
If it is indeed true that the European Union initiated such a statement without the consent of the Greek government, Tripras is absolutely right to be furious. It is worrying, in one respect, however in that Greece has broken ranks knowing the geopolitical threat and the ground this could give to Russia. If the EU is good for anything at the moment, then it's acting as a buffer and power bloc to combat Putin's aspirations. Although, like I say, the EU should take responsibility for failing to follow the proper procedure.

However, the claims of Brussels and Tusk could well be true, also. If it is the case that the Greek government waited this long to contradict the statement, it highlights a worrying degree of wilful manipulation on their part in undermining the Union's governance. It also underlines a worrying trend which could be developing of closer relations between Russia and Greece, which wouldn't be good for the overall situation in Ukraine, or for relations between the EU and Russia--as well as the power bloc it is trying to establish around the Eurasian Economic Union.


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Either Greece is sincere in this statement or they're purposely contradicting the EU just to get at them.

I honestly don't think they're moving toward closer relations with the Kremlin.


 
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I honestly don't think they're moving toward closer relations with the Kremlin.
Not at the moment, but it isn't unreasonable to consider some Machiavellian play from the Russians. Disintegrating relations within the EU, partially compounded by the possibility of a British exit in 2017, is very good for Putin and I've no doubt he'll exploit that in any way he can.

Greece sent its cabinet to Moscow just before the bailout was set to expire. If it really does get as bad as it could, then Greece could find the promise of cheap natural gas, Russian FDI and maybe even tourism very alluring. I mean, the first official visit to Tripras was from a Russian statesman. Greece has strong cultural and Orthodox ties with Russia, to the extent where 63pc of them have favourable views towards the country.


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Greece sent its cabinet to Moscow just before the bailout was set to expire. If it really does get as bad as it could, then Greece could find the promise of cheap natural gas, Russian FDI and maybe even tourism very alluring.
I completely forgot about the cabinet debacle.  Shit.

But if Greece setup stronger ties with Russia in exchange for them leaving the EU, would you resent such a decision (not its merits but its outcome)?


 
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would you resent such a decision (not its merits but its outcome)?
Yup.

EU > Russia.

It would be flat-out immoral for the Greek government to pursue such a strategy.


 
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It's interesting, people's interest in Russia in Greece (at least) has only a little favorable view of Russia. I think realistically-speaking, besides that threat being little more than a diplomatic tool. However, it's to note that previous governments weren't using this tool at all.

It also underlines a worrying trend which could be developing of closer relations between Russia and Greece, which wouldn't be good for the overall situation in Ukraine, or for relations between the EU and Russia--as well as the power bloc it is trying to establish around the Eurasian Economic Union.