For a little while I forgot why I dislike ethicists.

 
 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-36439260

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But the bit that annoyed me was this

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But this research rings ethical alarms bells for Marcy Darnovsky of San Francisco's Center for Genetics and Society.

She believes human embryo editing research may not be adequately controlled, leaving it open to a lab somewhere to create the first gene-edited babies.

"You could find wealthy parents buying the latest offspring upgrades for their children. We could see the emergence of genetic haves and have nots, leading to even greater inequality than we already live with."

Some of the key scientists in this field have concerns about the potential misuse of a technology that could be used for eugenics, to create genetic discrimination.

Prof Doudna told me of a nightmare she had where she was led into a dark room where a man was seated with his back to her.

She said: "When he turned I realised with horror that it was Hitler and I was being expected to discuss this technology with him and he eagerly wanting to use it."

She says that that while it is very hard to regulate the use of CRISPR technology, it is important to find a consensus about how people should proceed.

God forbid people create stronger, healthier, disease-resistant children if they can afford it.
You know when only rich people could have cars? Yeah. Look outside nowadays.
CRISPR isn't all that expensive either (relatively), so bollocks to their socialist whining.

The bit that really annoyed me though was the echoberg howling about how this might bring on anudda shoah. We already practice eugenics when parents abort downs children or those with CF, but using this to alter the child to be healthy instead of just playing scrambled eggs in the womb is apparently (((((((((((unethical))))))))))).

Thoughts on professional whingers ethicists or on CRISPR?


 
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Ethicists are generally dumb and this is a good thing, especially on the eugenics side of things. Technology is a field where something like "trickle down economics" actually works.


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You're not telling me that you don't see how this sort of thing could be abused, though.


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You're not telling me that you don't see how this sort of thing could be abused, though.
I'm sure humans will find ways to be humans regardless of the best efforts of any government or organisation (god help me I'm starting to sound like a libbie)

People will abuse this, just as people abuse just about every other form of technology or medical procedure conceivable. It doesn't mean we should have another shitfitting moratorium on a life saving procedure because someone had a dream about lebensraum 2.0.


 
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lol yeah man cars and children are p much the same thing!! if I can modify my car to give me an advantage in looking cool, why can't I modify my kid to give them an advantage in life?

This is just discrimination and asking for trouble. Attach whatever "bad" label you want to people against it, the truth is that until this is some kind of public works project, it should not be allowed.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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leading to even greater inequality than we already live with.

lol yeah man cars and children are p much the same thing!! if I can modify my car to give me an advantage in looking cool, why can't I modify my kid to give them an advantage in life?

This is just discrimination and asking for trouble. Attach whatever "bad" label you want to people against it, the truth is that until this is some kind of public works project, it should not be allowed.
wow... really makes you think
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"Serious is getting more serious"
which refers specifically to flaming


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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"Serious is getting more serious"
which refers specifically to flaming
Yeah, and it should refer to memes that add literally nothing to the conversation. Flaming is a non issue.


 
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I think that we will have absolutely no choice but to figure out how to selectively express modified genes eventually.  I don't think we will make it into deep space without just those sorts of modifications.  We will need to tamper down atrophy and similarly time sensitive destructive biological processes.  We will need to be much more resistant to radiation too.  Probably have to find a way to use less caloric energy, and lie almost completely dormant, using as little resources as possible, for extended time periods.  Genetic manipulation could do all of that.  Or, if we learn how to modify ourselves, perhaps we can just put all that tech and raw material on some probe, which can make an intelligent organism from scratch, to suit whatever environment that it encounters on some exoplanet in deep space in 20,000 years.

 Likewise, we might eventually need to find a way to make us capable of imbibing salt water again.  That would solve a whole bunch of our potable water problems.  It would probably be cheaper and easier than desal plants too.  On a personal note, I would love if I could have had my fucking allergies turned off before I was born.  Those are just minor annoyances too, unlike real problems people have to endure, like Trisomy or inherited cancer or whatever.  The ability to fix that shit, plus all that space crap earlier, suggests to me that we need to get as deeply into this s we can, sooner rather than later.

Also, on another note, but related, I am actually looking forward to seeing the unintended consequences that designer babies might provide.  They might not have any common genetic problems anymore, but I'm sure something else, that we didn't expect, will happen often enough to warrant a whole new ontology of disease.
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the whole concept of genetically engineering babies is fucking disgusting.


 
 
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Homogeneity breeds weakness. Humans aren't capable enough to take hold of their own evolution without fucking it up eventually.

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