Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 16, 2015, 02:09:50 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PMWhy shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?Considering it's a fundamentalist Islamic regime, despises Israel, has supported attacks against America and could spark an arms race in the region. . . No. . . No it fucking shouldn't.Should they not be able to have similar weapons as their enemies? It's like using a bow-and-arrow against a sniper rifle.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PMWhy shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?Considering it's a fundamentalist Islamic regime, despises Israel, has supported attacks against America and could spark an arms race in the region. . . No. . . No it fucking shouldn't.
Why shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?
Quote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:11:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 16, 2015, 02:09:50 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PMWhy shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?Considering it's a fundamentalist Islamic regime, despises Israel, has supported attacks against America and could spark an arms race in the region. . . No. . . No it fucking shouldn't.Should they not be able to have similar weapons as their enemies? It's like using a bow-and-arrow against a sniper rifle. why the fuck would you give the people you're trying to kill a weapon to defend themselves? the whole fucking point of a war is to conquer, not to play fucking games and get yourself killed because you were stupid enough to let the enemy get a hold of the tech you have. Fairness has no place on a battlefield, you take every opportunity to fuck over the enemy as hard as you can until they submit or are slaughtered.
Quote from: Mega Sceptile on January 16, 2015, 02:24:19 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:11:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 16, 2015, 02:09:50 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PMWhy shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?Considering it's a fundamentalist Islamic regime, despises Israel, has supported attacks against America and could spark an arms race in the region. . . No. . . No it fucking shouldn't.Should they not be able to have similar weapons as their enemies? It's like using a bow-and-arrow against a sniper rifle. why the fuck would you give the people you're trying to kill a weapon to defend themselves? the whole fucking point of a war is to conquer, not to play fucking games and get yourself killed because you were stupid enough to let the enemy get a hold of the tech you have. Fairness has no place on a battlefield, you take every opportunity to fuck over the enemy as hard as you can until they submit or are slaughtered.We aren't at war with Iran.
Quote from: Icy on January 16, 2015, 02:25:45 PMQuote from: Mega Sceptile on January 16, 2015, 02:24:19 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:11:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 16, 2015, 02:09:50 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PMWhy shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?Considering it's a fundamentalist Islamic regime, despises Israel, has supported attacks against America and could spark an arms race in the region. . . No. . . No it fucking shouldn't.Should they not be able to have similar weapons as their enemies? It's like using a bow-and-arrow against a sniper rifle. why the fuck would you give the people you're trying to kill a weapon to defend themselves? the whole fucking point of a war is to conquer, not to play fucking games and get yourself killed because you were stupid enough to let the enemy get a hold of the tech you have. Fairness has no place on a battlefield, you take every opportunity to fuck over the enemy as hard as you can until they submit or are slaughtered.We aren't at war with Iran. we aren't, but the allies in the area are at war with the people Iran support. you give them nukes, and the allies in the east go down.
Quote from: Raptorx7 on January 16, 2015, 02:23:29 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 16, 2015, 02:18:43 PMQuote from: Raptorx7 on January 16, 2015, 02:10:18 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 16, 2015, 02:08:46 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PMWhy shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?No because that would directly limit the United States from projecting its power and influence.How would it prevent us from projecting power?I agree with them not having one, but this I am not sure about. It would certainly destabilize the region, but it wouldn't directly limit our influence. We have a carrier group near the Persian Gulf at all times, and various military bases in Kuwait for example, our projection isn't going anywhere in th region.Yes, but a nuclear state essentially means that regime changes are completely out of the question, for the obvious reason that you cannot go to war with a nuclear state.I have confidence in our military that we could stop a nuclear Iran with a single nuclear weapon from launching, and I bet our military leaders are to. Iran would be no where near as much as a nuclear threat as say Russia is, which has multiple ways of firing nuclear weapons, silos, mobile ballistic missile carriers, and submarines. Regime change wouldn't be outside of reality either because they wouldn't use a nuke on there own country unless they have completely lost it. The people of Iran all don't agree with the extremist views of there leadership, a revolution would not be impossible.Is it still not a risk to US dominance though?
Quote from: Dustin xLilD on January 16, 2015, 02:18:43 PMQuote from: Raptorx7 on January 16, 2015, 02:10:18 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 16, 2015, 02:08:46 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PMWhy shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?No because that would directly limit the United States from projecting its power and influence.How would it prevent us from projecting power?I agree with them not having one, but this I am not sure about. It would certainly destabilize the region, but it wouldn't directly limit our influence. We have a carrier group near the Persian Gulf at all times, and various military bases in Kuwait for example, our projection isn't going anywhere in th region.Yes, but a nuclear state essentially means that regime changes are completely out of the question, for the obvious reason that you cannot go to war with a nuclear state.I have confidence in our military that we could stop a nuclear Iran with a single nuclear weapon from launching, and I bet our military leaders are to. Iran would be no where near as much as a nuclear threat as say Russia is, which has multiple ways of firing nuclear weapons, silos, mobile ballistic missile carriers, and submarines. Regime change wouldn't be outside of reality either because they wouldn't use a nuke on there own country unless they have completely lost it. The people of Iran all don't agree with the extremist views of there leadership, a revolution would not be impossible.
Quote from: Raptorx7 on January 16, 2015, 02:10:18 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 16, 2015, 02:08:46 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PMWhy shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?No because that would directly limit the United States from projecting its power and influence.How would it prevent us from projecting power?I agree with them not having one, but this I am not sure about. It would certainly destabilize the region, but it wouldn't directly limit our influence. We have a carrier group near the Persian Gulf at all times, and various military bases in Kuwait for example, our projection isn't going anywhere in th region.Yes, but a nuclear state essentially means that regime changes are completely out of the question, for the obvious reason that you cannot go to war with a nuclear state.
Quote from: Dustin xLilD on January 16, 2015, 02:08:46 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PMWhy shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?No because that would directly limit the United States from projecting its power and influence.How would it prevent us from projecting power?I agree with them not having one, but this I am not sure about. It would certainly destabilize the region, but it wouldn't directly limit our influence. We have a carrier group near the Persian Gulf at all times, and various military bases in Kuwait for example, our projection isn't going anywhere in th region.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PMWhy shouldn't they have it? Should they not be on an equal playing field as many other countries?No because that would directly limit the United States from projecting its power and influence.
Should we stop Iran from getting the bomb?
