The dataset that we analyzed in this report spanned hundreds of users over several months. Phone records held by the NSA and telecoms span millions of Americans over multiple years. Reasonable minds can disagree about the policy and legal constraints that should be imposed on those databases. The science, however, is clear: phone metadata is highly sensitive.
this is the golden age of surveillance.
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 01:04:28 PMthis is the golden age of surveillance.Haha, no. It hasn't even started.How long do you think it will be until Brits start going to jail for having dissident opinions?
No one rational cares.
>Being spied on is not a legitimate concernWew lad
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.
Privacy is a right.
Quote from: Gaara444 on March 08, 2016, 03:53:36 PMPrivacy is a right. A right that only criminals need.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Socialist.Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Trade Unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew.Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
A right that only criminals need.
Wanting to have privacy does not make you a criminal.
So journalists abroad reporting on oppressive governments don't deserve security (the lack of which would get them killed/arrested/disappeared). Gotcha.
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 04:00:47 PMSo journalists abroad reporting on oppressive governments don't deserve security (the lack of which would get them killed/arrested/disappeared). Gotcha.Security =/= Privacy.
Quote from: Verbatim on March 08, 2016, 04:02:55 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 04:00:47 PMSo journalists abroad reporting on oppressive governments don't deserve security (the lack of which would get them killed/arrested/disappeared). Gotcha.Security =/= Privacy.They can't exist without each other.
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 04:04:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on March 08, 2016, 04:02:55 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 04:00:47 PMSo journalists abroad reporting on oppressive governments don't deserve security (the lack of which would get them killed/arrested/disappeared). Gotcha.Security =/= Privacy.They can't exist without each other.There's a difference between protecting someone's life and simply feeling uncomfortable because someone knows you enjoy midget scat porn. Boo fucking hoo.
Quote from: Verbatim on March 08, 2016, 04:05:22 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 04:04:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on March 08, 2016, 04:02:55 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 04:00:47 PMSo journalists abroad reporting on oppressive governments don't deserve security (the lack of which would get them killed/arrested/disappeared). Gotcha.Security =/= Privacy.They can't exist without each other.There's a difference between protecting someone's life and simply feeling uncomfortable because someone knows you enjoy midget scat porn. Boo fucking hoo.Nice dodge.
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 04:05:49 PMQuote from: Verbatim on March 08, 2016, 04:05:22 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 04:04:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on March 08, 2016, 04:02:55 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 04:00:47 PMSo journalists abroad reporting on oppressive governments don't deserve security (the lack of which would get them killed/arrested/disappeared). Gotcha.Security =/= Privacy.They can't exist without each other.There's a difference between protecting someone's life and simply feeling uncomfortable because someone knows you enjoy midget scat porn. Boo fucking hoo.Nice dodge.Thank you.Nice conflation of two things that aren't comparable in any way.
The fact that someone does a perfectly normal thing like watching porn at all is enough to end careers and effectively discredit someone. And the folks who would have access to that knowledge are likely clandestine operatives who aren't bound by laws or morals anyway.
The point of anonymous metadata is that people don't have access to it, not that a profile can't be built from the information.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on March 08, 2016, 04:06:54 PMThe point of anonymous metadata is that people don't have access to it, not that a profile can't be built from the information.That's not what 'anonymous' implies. The NSA knows that.
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on March 08, 2016, 04:10:10 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on March 08, 2016, 04:06:54 PMThe point of anonymous metadata is that people don't have access to it, not that a profile can't be built from the information.That's not what 'anonymous' implies. The NSA knows that.I'm not sure how it's anything but anonymous. Nobody sees phone numbers, names, or call data until a warrant is obtained.
It makes you irrational.
In what way? How is wanting privacy from an entity that doesn't need your personal information irrational?
Quote from: Gaara444 on March 08, 2016, 04:19:31 PMIn what way? How is wanting privacy from an entity that doesn't need your personal information irrational? Because if you're not a criminal, you're not going to get arrested.If you ARE a criminal, you DESERVE to get arrested.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on March 08, 2016, 04:17:15 PMI'm not sure how it's anything but anonymous. Nobody sees phone numbers, names, or call data until a warrant is obtained.Do you see the conflict in that statement? If you can discern that information from it, it's not anonymous by definition; it's locked behind a warrant.
I'm not sure how it's anything but anonymous. Nobody sees phone numbers, names, or call data until a warrant is obtained.
Fact check: "anonymized" metadata is anything but
