Ethics vs Advancement

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Last Edit: December 07, 2014, 05:12:53 PM by The Zen of Party Butts


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Advancement, always.

That's probably because I'm a Nietzschean. And a Machiavellian. And a psychopath.

Still - advancement.



 
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Advancement macroscopically; ethics microscopically.

As for whether I prefer macro or micro? I don't know. I don't find that question terribly interesting.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Reality isn't black and white, and I see no reason to present my opinions in black and white either. Advancement with a conscious mind to ethics seems reasonable to me.


 
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Yeah, the more I think about my response, the more I realize how much it would work the same way the other way around.


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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
It's a tricky one for me, because on the one hand you have something like the grossly unethical conduct of Nazi experimentation's which resulted in disability, disfigurement and the mental distress of a multitude of innocent people, but also advanced scientific and medical inquiry, namely the effects of certain gases and the treatment of hypothermia.

The same goes for the experimentation of animals. I suppose I'm a proponent of advancement if the participants weren't human, or extremely sentient, and that it supports a genuinely beneficial cause like the aforementioned treatment of illnesses. I'd draw the line where it comes to cosmetic purposes or financial gain for a small group of individuals, and the suffering of the participants greatly outweighed the benefits reaped from it.
Last Edit: December 07, 2014, 04:27:47 PM by Madman Mordo


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
In the case of which of the two is more important, I'd lean towards advancement.


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The Stanford Prison Experiment probably isn't a good example to use since it was an extremely flawed and biased experiment. Everyone was behaving normally until they were told by the researchers to put on certain roles.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
I suppose it depends how far you're intruding past "the line" compared to the use of the knowledge gained.

I mean, are these Nazi experiments on Eastern European/Jewish/"Undesirables" completely useless information or have these experiments, though obviously cruel and brutal, helped anyone? I would probably say no (definitely for Mengele's experiments regarding pain tolerances for different races).

But the experiments in OP are pale in comparison for the effects, and arguably have been a benefit to those with depression or other similar psychological problems through scientific understanding of the conditions. Otherwise we could still be throwing people with mental conditions in the old Victorian asylums, and treating them far worse through ignorance.


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the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
The two are not mutually exclusive. It's a matter of finding out how far you can get with both before one overtakes the other.


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Advancement. You can't have advancement without trial and error, and blocking T&E blocks advancement.


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My view: Advancement essentially always
My (social) view: If it's designed around only incurring as much damage as necessary, advancement


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Mengele did nothing wrong.