Proposed by Clinton, Sanders and Trump. Rating: Good (20 good, 2 debatable).
Proposed by Rubio. Rating: Debatable (10 good, 10 debatable, 2 bad).
Proposed by Sanders and Clinton. Rating: Debatable (10 good, 8 debatable, 4 bad).
Proposed by Sanders. Rating: Bad (1 good, 1 debatable, 20 bad).
Proposed by Clinton. Rating: Debatable (5 good, 9 debatable, 8 bad).
Proposed by Sanders. Rating: Debatable (4 good, 6 debatable, 12 bad).
Proposed by Sanders. Rating: Bad (2 good, 4 debatable, 16 bad).
Proposed by Trump. Rating: Debatable (2 good, 9 debatable, 11 bad).
Proposed by Cruz. Rating: Bad (1 good, 21 bad).
Proposed by Trump. Rating: Bad (22 bad).
Trump's tax proposal: “If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households -- over 50 percent -- from the income tax rolls.”
Make tuition free at public colleges and universities.Proposed by Bernie SandersEconomists' rating: BAD “This proposal is too indiscriminate. Many students can afford to pay a considerable amount toward their higher education. It is wasteful to give them a free ride.” — Eric Maskin“I favor making tuition free for low- and moderate-income students. But I don’t think it makes sense to subsidize high-income families for their children to attend college. ” — Hilary Hoynes“There are many who can and should pay for college.” — Larry Samuelso
Are private colleges not already where rich families go despite the fact public uni is cheaper?
QuoteMake tuition free at public colleges and universities.Proposed by Bernie SandersEconomists' rating: BAD “This proposal is too indiscriminate. Many students can afford to pay a considerable amount toward their higher education. It is wasteful to give them a free ride.” — Eric Maskin“I favor making tuition free for low- and moderate-income students. But I don’t think it makes sense to subsidize high-income families for their children to attend college. ” — Hilary Hoynes“There are many who can and should pay for college.” — Larry SamuelsoAre private colleges not already where rich families go despite the fact public uni is cheaper?
Expel immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally.QuoteProposed by Trump. Rating: Bad (22 bad).
Quote from: Meta Cognition on February 27, 2016, 07:44:56 AMExpel immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally.QuoteProposed by Trump. Rating: Bad (22 bad). The fuck? They're here illegally.
Quote from: Mordo on February 27, 2016, 12:49:51 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on February 27, 2016, 07:44:56 AMExpel immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally.QuoteProposed by Trump. Rating: Bad (22 bad). The fuck? They're here illegally.Do you wanna pay 10 dollars for a head of lettuce? Cause that's what's gonna happen when they're all gone, hermano.
Joke's on you. I only buy locally sourced vegetables from the Amish and Mennonites.
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 27, 2016, 01:17:30 PMJoke's on you. I only buy locally sourced vegetables from the Amish and Mennonites.They're allowed to have currency?
Quote from: Mordo on February 27, 2016, 12:49:51 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on February 27, 2016, 07:44:56 AMExpel immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally.QuoteProposed by Trump. Rating: Bad (22 bad). The fuck? They're here illegally.How facile of you.
I like how anything proposed by Sanders that would actually benefit Americans in a real way was met with "bad"
Quote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:49:52 PMI like how anything proposed by Sanders that would actually benefit Americans in a real way was met with "bad"Good hearted ideas don't always lead to good outcomes.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:49:52 PMI like how anything proposed by Sanders that would actually benefit Americans in a real way was met with "bad"The term 'benefit' being completely subjective of course.
Quote from: Icy on February 27, 2016, 02:51:00 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:49:52 PMI like how anything proposed by Sanders that would actually benefit Americans in a real way was met with "bad"Good hearted ideas don't always lead to good outcomes.Or maybe taxpayer subsidized education doesn't make the government, banks, and schools money, thus it is "bad" economically.
Quote from: Mordo on February 27, 2016, 02:52:36 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:49:52 PMI like how anything proposed by Sanders that would actually benefit Americans in a real way was met with "bad"The term 'benefit' being completely subjective of course.When you're better educated, you can get better jobs. This is not subjective.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:52:49 PMQuote from: Icy on February 27, 2016, 02:51:00 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:49:52 PMI like how anything proposed by Sanders that would actually benefit Americans in a real way was met with "bad"Good hearted ideas don't always lead to good outcomes.Or maybe taxpayer subsidized education doesn't make the government, banks, and schools money, thus it is "bad" economically.Do we need to have Meta explain this for a....sixth? Is it sixth time?
Quote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:53:13 PMQuote from: Mordo on February 27, 2016, 02:52:36 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:49:52 PMI like how anything proposed by Sanders that would actually benefit Americans in a real way was met with "bad"The term 'benefit' being completely subjective of course.When you're better educated, you can get better jobs. This is not subjective.An overwhelming majority of economists who are more educated on this topic than you disagree. So yeah, it kind of is.
How exactly is it 'facile' to make sure we're abiding by the law?
Not everything needs to operate like a business. Our educations shouldn't hinge on who can afford it, nor should it exploit those who cannot.
Quote from: Mordo on February 27, 2016, 02:55:11 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:53:13 PMQuote from: Mordo on February 27, 2016, 02:52:36 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:49:52 PMI like how anything proposed by Sanders that would actually benefit Americans in a real way was met with "bad"The term 'benefit' being completely subjective of course.When you're better educated, you can get better jobs. This is not subjective.An overwhelming majority of economists who are more educated on this topic than you disagree. So yeah, it kind of is.So your level of education is entirely unrelated to prospective employers? If you've spent 5 minutes looking for a job you'd know that's a lie.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:55:58 PMNot everything needs to operate like a business. Our educations shouldn't hinge on who can afford it, nor should it exploit those who cannot.No, but our education institutions - from pre-K through college - should be well funded and ensure the best care.How it's being run now isn't doing that.
Quote from: Icy on February 27, 2016, 03:00:33 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:55:58 PMNot everything needs to operate like a business. Our educations shouldn't hinge on who can afford it, nor should it exploit those who cannot.No, but our education institutions - from pre-K through college - should be well funded and ensure the best care.How it's being run now isn't doing that.So we should continue the practice of charging exorbitant amounts for education, causing millions of young people to begin their adult lives under a mountain of debt, until...whatever is wrong with our education system is fixed?
Quote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:56:58 PMQuote from: Mordo on February 27, 2016, 02:55:11 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:53:13 PMQuote from: Mordo on February 27, 2016, 02:52:36 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:49:52 PMI like how anything proposed by Sanders that would actually benefit Americans in a real way was met with "bad"The term 'benefit' being completely subjective of course.When you're better educated, you can get better jobs. This is not subjective.An overwhelming majority of economists who are more educated on this topic than you disagree. So yeah, it kind of is.So your level of education is entirely unrelated to prospective employers? If you've spent 5 minutes looking for a job you'd know that's a lie.Okay so strawman aside, the original proposition that was posited was free tuition, with the vast majority of experts concluding that it is indeed, bad. When someone who has extensively studied a field that is telling you that a certain course of action is a bad idea, perhaps you should actually listen to what they're saying and not label it "a benefit".
Quote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 03:03:25 PMQuote from: Icy on February 27, 2016, 03:00:33 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 27, 2016, 02:55:58 PMNot everything needs to operate like a business. Our educations shouldn't hinge on who can afford it, nor should it exploit those who cannot.No, but our education institutions - from pre-K through college - should be well funded and ensure the best care.How it's being run now isn't doing that.So we should continue the practice of charging exorbitant amounts for education, causing millions of young people to begin their adult lives under a mountain of debt, until...whatever is wrong with our education system is fixed?And where the fuck did I say that?
Economists rank the candidates' policy proposals
