Abortion is heroism, fetal alcohol syndrome is torture.
an abortion ends the baby's life before it even begins, and it's mostly for reasons like rape or the baby will be born all fucked up or whateverdrinking while pregnant has no valid reasoning and dooms the child to a life wrought with severe physical and mental hindrances
The fact is that fetuses are a genetically unique human being, totally separate from the mother in that sense. I think it's awfully arrogant of humanity to put boundaries on which humans are people, as if those are no longer synonymous. It seems horribly barbaric, like societies that still use slavery or consider women to be sub-human. The disturbing thing about that is, what if those people that don't consider humans to be "people" until birth or viability are wrong? Well, then we'd have to face that fact that as a planet of a conglomeration of "civilized" nations, we've committed a mass genocide that succeeds the works of the most reviled figures of the 1900's.
Playing Devil's Advocate here; So if someone is planning to have an abortion and is guaranteed to have one, it's perfectly fine to smoke, drink, do drugs, etc, before the appointment because that potential for life will never be, right?Because somehow even with those assumptions, that irks me a little.
Quote from: bastard man on April 20, 2017, 08:36:43 PMan abortion ends the baby's life before it even begins, and it's mostly for reasons like rape or the baby will be born all fucked up or whateverdrinking while pregnant has no valid reasoning and dooms the child to a life wrought with severe physical and mental hindrancesThe fact is that fetuses are a genetically unique human being, totally separate from the mother in that sense. I think it's awfully arrogant of humanity to put boundaries on which humans are people, as if those are no longer synonymous. It seems horribly barbaric, like societies that still use slavery or consider women to be sub-human. The disturbing thing about that is, what if those people that don't consider humans to be "people" until birth or viability are wrong? Well, then we'd have to face that fact that as a planet of a conglomeration of "civilized" nations, we've committed a mass genocide that succeeds the works of the most reviled figures of the 1900's.
Copypasta from 5 years ago? Do you have the old thread bookmarked or something?
Of course nobody wants to be born into a poor or broken family. That doesn't mean they don't want to be born. And why the hell should the mother get to decide whether the child should have that opportunity to define his/her own life?
QuoteOf course nobody wants to be born into a poor or broken family. That doesn't mean they don't want to be born. And why the hell should the mother get to decide whether the child should have that opportunity to define his/her own life?Holy fuck Turkeyi don't even think i was AN at the time but i would've had a field daythat was the last post in the thread too, goddamn
Drinking while pregnant and abortion
