One of these days, I'll make a master post on how Trump has already secured the nomination.
Quote from: Icy on February 23, 2016, 11:33:57 PMOne of these days, I'll make a master post on how Trump has already secured the nomination.Was there ever any doubt? I don't think so. Just wishful thinking.
Reminder that Republican Party is actually very small in our country and his appeal on the general election won't be nearly as good. He may be favorable in that small group, but not the entire country where he's still very much disliked.
Quote from: Luciana on February 23, 2016, 11:42:44 PMReminder that Republican Party is actually very small in our country and his appeal on the general election won't be nearly as good. He may be favorable in that small group, but not the entire country where he's still very much disliked.Literally what?
Reminder that Republican Party is actually very small in our country and his appeal on the general election won't be nearly as good. He may be favorable in that small group, but not the entire country where he's still very much disliked.He has a 51% un-favoriteable rating, the highest any front runner has had, ever. Also remember that Rubio and Cruz are too busy circle jerking over fighting each other and not Trump, along with not doing the obvious things to actually hurt Trump, and you have this.Odds are it will be Hillary v Trump, with Hillary winning. Though maybe not. Hillary does an amazing job at deflating the Democrat Party because she flips on issues more than a pancake being cooked by Mitt Romney.
=Reminder that the people that vote are old, racist, white people. No way they'll vote for Community Sanders or Criminal Clinton. Trump has this election locked up.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:00:31 AM=Reminder that the people that vote are old, racist, white people. No way they'll vote for Community Sanders or Criminal Clinton. Trump has this election locked up.Well by that logic, how did Obama win? If the democratic party actually gets excitement, they'll win, but it seems from the turnout polls, and history in general, that a Republican will win. Unless it's Cruz.
Quote from: Luciana on February 24, 2016, 12:03:04 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:00:31 AM=Reminder that the people that vote are old, racist, white people. No way they'll vote for Community Sanders or Criminal Clinton. Trump has this election locked up.Well by that logic, how did Obama win? If the democratic party actually gets excitement, they'll win, but it seems from the turnout polls, and history in general, that a Republican will win. Unless it's Cruz.Because black people, who don't normally vote, voted for Obama. If Obama was white he would have lost.
Quote from: Icy on February 23, 2016, 11:33:57 PMOne of these days, I'll make a master post on how Trump has already secured the nomination.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:04:35 AMQuote from: Luciana on February 24, 2016, 12:03:04 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:00:31 AM=Reminder that the people that vote are old, racist, white people. No way they'll vote for Community Sanders or Criminal Clinton. Trump has this election locked up.Well by that logic, how did Obama win? If the democratic party actually gets excitement, they'll win, but it seems from the turnout polls, and history in general, that a Republican will win. Unless it's Cruz.Because black people, who don't normally vote, voted for Obama. If Obama was white he would have lost.I'm not so sure about that. The entire country was fed up with Bush and the republicans in the white house.
Quote from: Luciana on February 24, 2016, 12:11:55 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:04:35 AMQuote from: Luciana on February 24, 2016, 12:03:04 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:00:31 AM=Reminder that the people that vote are old, racist, white people. No way they'll vote for Community Sanders or Criminal Clinton. Trump has this election locked up.Well by that logic, how did Obama win? If the democratic party actually gets excitement, they'll win, but it seems from the turnout polls, and history in general, that a Republican will win. Unless it's Cruz.Because black people, who don't normally vote, voted for Obama. If Obama was white he would have lost.I'm not so sure about that. The entire country was fed up with Bush and the republicans in the white house.And here we are, nearly 8 years later, fighting the stupid wars that we hated back then, soo...fat lot of good that did us.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:13:13 AMQuote from: Luciana on February 24, 2016, 12:11:55 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:04:35 AMQuote from: Luciana on February 24, 2016, 12:03:04 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:00:31 AM=Reminder that the people that vote are old, racist, white people. No way they'll vote for Community Sanders or Criminal Clinton. Trump has this election locked up.Well by that logic, how did Obama win? If the democratic party actually gets excitement, they'll win, but it seems from the turnout polls, and history in general, that a Republican will win. Unless it's Cruz.Because black people, who don't normally vote, voted for Obama. If Obama was white he would have lost.I'm not so sure about that. The entire country was fed up with Bush and the republicans in the white house.And here we are, nearly 8 years later, fighting the stupid wars that we hated back then, soo...fat lot of good that did us.Well, war*We completely abandoned Iraq. Afghanistan is almost entirely done, so we basically lost two wars in the same decade.
Quote from: Luciana on February 23, 2016, 11:42:44 PMReminder that Republican Party is actually very small in our country and his appeal on the general election won't be nearly as good. He may be favorable in that small group, but not the entire country where he's still very much disliked.He has a 51% un-favoriteable rating, the highest any front runner has had, ever. Also remember that Rubio and Cruz are too busy circle jerking over fighting each other and not Trump, along with not doing the obvious things to actually hurt Trump, and you have this.Odds are it will be Hillary v Trump, with Hillary winning. Though maybe not. Hillary does an amazing job at deflating the Democrat Party because she flips on issues more than a pancake being cooked by Mitt Romney.I think this is the majority consensus. But I also feel Trump will scare enough people to go out and vote against him. The Latinos will definitely be out in droves as well as the blacks.Centre Left and and Centre Right will also likely join Hillary to hold him off. Hell I bet a decent chunk of Sanders supporters may vote Hillary out of fear of Trump winning.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:13:13 AMQuote from: Luciana on February 24, 2016, 12:11:55 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:04:35 AMQuote from: Luciana on February 24, 2016, 12:03:04 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:00:31 AM=Reminder that the people that vote are old, racist, white people. No way they'll vote for Community Sanders or Criminal Clinton. Trump has this election locked up.Well by that logic, how did Obama win? If the democratic party actually gets excitement, they'll win, but it seems from the turnout polls, and history in general, that a Republican will win. Unless it's Cruz.Because black people, who don't normally vote, voted for Obama. If Obama was white he would have lost.I'm not so sure about that. The entire country was fed up with Bush and the republicans in the white house.And here we are, nearly 8 years later, fighting the stupid wars that we hated back then, soo...fat lot of good that did us.Who is this we.I didn't hate the Afghan or Iraq wars.
Quote from: Chief Among Sinners on February 24, 2016, 12:22:35 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:13:13 AMQuote from: Luciana on February 24, 2016, 12:11:55 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:04:35 AMQuote from: Luciana on February 24, 2016, 12:03:04 AMQuote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:00:31 AM=Reminder that the people that vote are old, racist, white people. No way they'll vote for Community Sanders or Criminal Clinton. Trump has this election locked up.Well by that logic, how did Obama win? If the democratic party actually gets excitement, they'll win, but it seems from the turnout polls, and history in general, that a Republican will win. Unless it's Cruz.Because black people, who don't normally vote, voted for Obama. If Obama was white he would have lost.I'm not so sure about that. The entire country was fed up with Bush and the republicans in the white house.And here we are, nearly 8 years later, fighting the stupid wars that we hated back then, soo...fat lot of good that did us.Who is this we.I didn't hate the Afghan or Iraq wars.Of course you don't - conservatives love wars. Wars make them money. Wars give the government more power to control the American people. That's a conservative's wet dream.
QuoteWars give the government more power to control the American people. That's a conservative's wet dream.Conservatives in America today decry government policies that have major impacts on the lives of Americans. Something tells me they don't have wet dreams about the things they categorically oppose.
Wars give the government more power to control the American people. That's a conservative's wet dream.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:34:31 AMQuote from: Chief Among Sinners on February 24, 2016, 12:32:49 AMQuoteWars give the government more power to control the American people. That's a conservative's wet dream.Conservatives in America today decry government policies that have major impacts on the lives of Americans. Something tells me they don't have wet dreams about the things they categorically oppose.They SAY they don't want government control over the people, but their actions indicate otherwise.We're not clear on who "they" are here, but let's say you're talking about a generic republican.Pro foreign war: Pretty consistent. Enforces American dominance of geopolitics and the global economy.Anti abortion: They believe fetuses are in fact persons, and that the destruction of a person is wrong. In this sense they want to protect American lives. Unless you can refute the claim that fetuses are persons without resorting to arbitrary crap, shoving the "muh reproductive rights" card does nothing. They want to protect the right to life of what they see as young Americans.For decentralized government power: More power to the states means more power for individuals within those states, and less control over the people in a general sense (although blue states would end up running more aspects of American lives than in the past, under this trend)Spying: has little to do with control, the point is to ensure safety from harm, reinforcing individual freedoms. Having your shit seen does not equate to having your life controlled. Can this be abused to remove political and personal autonomy? Absolutely, but the INTENT is positive. The practice may be different, but that is in the hands of governmen agents, not conservatives.Against centralized healthcare: pretty straightforward. "Government get out reeeeeeeee"For limiting the welfare state: Again, straightforward. "government stop making poor people dependent on you thereby limiting their agency and capacity/desire to make a decent living for themselves reeeeeeeeeeeeeee"I think I hit the major points, but feel free to tell me if I missed one.
Quote from: Chief Among Sinners on February 24, 2016, 12:32:49 AMQuoteWars give the government more power to control the American people. That's a conservative's wet dream.Conservatives in America today decry government policies that have major impacts on the lives of Americans. Something tells me they don't have wet dreams about the things they categorically oppose.They SAY they don't want government control over the people, but their actions indicate otherwise.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 24, 2016, 12:52:47 AMI like how you can't make an argument like we're not on 4chan. Get the fuck out with this reeeee bullshit. Makes you look like a fucking retard. Pretend like you're an adult for a second.Everything Republicans do is about controlling the people. Abortion. War. Gay marriage. Spying. Try to justify it all you want, but it conflicts with their claim that they want smaller government and freedom."I'm not going to even think about what you've said. Instead I will attack you for explaining things in simplistic and creative terminology because it comes from a website I dislike, and restate the claims that you refuted".You're easily our worst poster.
I like how you can't make an argument like we're not on 4chan. Get the fuck out with this reeeee bullshit. Makes you look like a fucking retard. Pretend like you're an adult for a second.Everything Republicans do is about controlling the people. Abortion. War. Gay marriage. Spying. Try to justify it all you want, but it conflicts with their claim that they want smaller government and freedom.