Quote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.
Quote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwise
Homosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.
Quote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?
Quote from: Winy on July 04, 2016, 05:20:43 AMQuote from: Callous on July 04, 2016, 03:54:12 AMBesides, in reality, there is no such thing as a "good parent" -- only a less-shitty parent.Pfft what is this crap?In parenting, anything less than perfection isn't good enough. A perfect parent has never existed. Not hard.
Quote from: Callous on July 04, 2016, 03:54:12 AMBesides, in reality, there is no such thing as a "good parent" -- only a less-shitty parent.Pfft what is this crap?
Besides, in reality, there is no such thing as a "good parent" -- only a less-shitty parent.
Quote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:24:16 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.
What a ridiculous and stupid mentality.
Quote from: Winy on July 04, 2016, 01:50:11 PMWhat a ridiculous and stupid mentality.Yeah, spending your life striving to be the best parent in the world because you know you'll never be good enough is just an awful mindset to have.
Quote from: Desty on July 04, 2016, 09:02:41 AMGrow up will you?I wish you weren't so abrasive. I actually have a soft spot for people like you.
Grow up will you?
Quote from: Callous on July 04, 2016, 01:53:18 PMQuote from: Winy on July 04, 2016, 01:50:11 PMWhat a ridiculous and stupid mentality.Yeah, spending your life striving to be the best parent in the world because you know you'll never be good enough is just an awful mindset to have.You know that isn't what I said.
Implying that someone is incapable of being a "Good" parent because of the reasons you described is just a horrendous example of semantic gymnastics- You're just aiming to make some sort of outlandish, edgy statement because you think it sounds cool.
Not at all. This life is objectively garbage and bringing a child into it requires certain guarantees from the imposer (the parent). Those things are perfection and bliss, which no parent is capable of providing.
If I eat a peach, and it's not the best peach I've ever had, do you have some sort of problem with me describing it as "Good?"
If you want to be an edgy clown and describe all concepts and experiences relative to absolute zero, go ahead. But don't act like your "Mentality" is anything beyond being a glass-half-empty person for the sake of sounding falsely deep and methodical.
"Good" parents are still bad parents because they brought children into an existence where they suffered immensely.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:43:23 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:24:16 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 03:24:56 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:53:03 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:43:23 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:24:16 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.Uh, yeah. That system. That's kinda what started this quote chain, guy. It's fucked up and the state essentially works against clearing people out of it. I'll tell ya son, after seven years of trying to adopt domestically instead of just fostering differen kids every year, a lot of couples get fucking fed up and just pull a baby from China in two weeks. If a gay couple can help a kid get out of that, then let's give more fags some more kids. We're not taking an advantage away from anyone by doing that. We're giving them an advantage over what they had before.I've never seen so much Jewish propaganda in my life
Quote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:53:03 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:43:23 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:24:16 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.Uh, yeah. That system. That's kinda what started this quote chain, guy. It's fucked up and the state essentially works against clearing people out of it. I'll tell ya son, after seven years of trying to adopt domestically instead of just fostering differen kids every year, a lot of couples get fucking fed up and just pull a baby from China in two weeks. If a gay couple can help a kid get out of that, then let's give more fags some more kids. We're not taking an advantage away from anyone by doing that. We're giving them an advantage over what they had before.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 03:58:08 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 04, 2016, 03:51:37 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 03:24:56 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:53:03 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:43:23 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:24:16 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.Uh, yeah. That system. That's kinda what started this quote chain, guy. It's fucked up and the state essentially works against clearing people out of it. I'll tell ya son, after seven years of trying to adopt domestically instead of just fostering differen kids every year, a lot of couples get fucking fed up and just pull a baby from China in two weeks. If a gay couple can help a kid get out of that, then let's give more fags some more kids. We're not taking an advantage away from anyone by doing that. We're giving them an advantage over what they had before.I've never seen so much Jewish propaganda in my lifeWhoa man, I'm not promoting faggotry, I'm just showing the possibility of utilitarian contributions to society that such people have to offer. The Zionists want you goy to be uneducated. What better way to do that than deprive you of a home and a decent schooling?>when you meme so much you don't even know who you are or what you stand for anymore
Quote from: challengerX on July 04, 2016, 03:51:37 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 03:24:56 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:53:03 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:43:23 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:24:16 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.Uh, yeah. That system. That's kinda what started this quote chain, guy. It's fucked up and the state essentially works against clearing people out of it. I'll tell ya son, after seven years of trying to adopt domestically instead of just fostering differen kids every year, a lot of couples get fucking fed up and just pull a baby from China in two weeks. If a gay couple can help a kid get out of that, then let's give more fags some more kids. We're not taking an advantage away from anyone by doing that. We're giving them an advantage over what they had before.I've never seen so much Jewish propaganda in my lifeWhoa man, I'm not promoting faggotry, I'm just showing the possibility of utilitarian contributions to society that such people have to offer. The Zionists want you goy to be uneducated. What better way to do that than deprive you of a home and a decent schooling?
Quote from: Callous on July 04, 2016, 03:00:50 PM"Good" parents are still bad parents because they brought children into an existence where they suffered immensely.Pretending for a second that this was true, even if that were the case, a parent does not bring a child into the world with the expectation and hope that they are going to "Suffer immensely."
Quote from: Winy on July 04, 2016, 03:09:14 PMQuote from: Callous on July 04, 2016, 03:00:50 PM"Good" parents are still bad parents because they brought children into an existence where they suffered immensely.Pretending for a second that this was true, even if that were the case, a parent does not bring a child into the world with the expectation and hope that they are going to "Suffer immensely." And this is PRECISELY why there are no and have never been any "good" parents.That doesn't mean you can't like your parents. I like mine--hell, I love mine. But are they good parents? No. No such thing.
And it has also yet to be determined whether homosexual marriages establish a healthy growing environment for a child.
Not to blame you, but the notion that heterosexual parents would establish a better environment simply due to who they fuck is laughable.
Quote from: Icy on July 04, 2016, 04:13:54 PMNot to blame you, but the notion that heterosexual parents would establish a better environment simply due to who they fuck is laughable.It isn't about "who they fuck", it's about the child having both a mother and a father figure. That's what's important.Lacking either of those things can create the sub-optimal living conditions I was previously talking about. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on that.
What about parents that adopt though?
Again, I think the issue you have is with creating a new person, not taking care of them after the fact.
You can't credit someone with intentionally causing an individual extensive harm if they didn't intend to.
And from your perspective, a "Parent" is a bad person anyway, so using the phrase "Bad parent" is redundant and annoying. You have an issue with the concept of conceiving a child, not parenting one.
Which children can get from extended family members (Grandparents, uncles/aunts), family friends, and education instructors - if not just from their parents. I'm surprised that you would resort to such a silly argument, especially in 2016.
Even if they're improving the life on a child who already exists in a worse position?
Any child who was ever born or ever will be born will suffer immensely. The parents cannot guarantee bliss on earth, so therefore they do intend to inflict pain on their child, albeit, inadvertently.