Does the increase in Homosexual and other types of sexualities help the world?

 
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Homosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.
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The best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.
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Homosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.
orphanages would say otherwise

The best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.
So?

So you wanna take advantages away from children?


 
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Homosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.
orphanages would say otherwise

The best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.
So?

So you wanna take advantages away from children?
I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.


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Besides, in reality, there is no such thing as a "good parent" -- only a less-shitty parent.
Pfft what is this crap?
In parenting, anything less than perfection isn't good enough. A perfect parent has never existed. Not hard.
What a ridiculous and stupid mentality.


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Homosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.
orphanages would say otherwise

The best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.
So?

So you wanna take advantages away from children?
I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.

The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.


 
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What a ridiculous and stupid mentality.

Yeah, spending your life striving to be the best parent in the world because you know you'll never be good enough is just an awful mindset to have.


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What a ridiculous and stupid mentality.

Yeah, spending your life striving to be the best parent in the world because you know you'll never be good enough is just an awful mindset to have.
You know that isn't what I said. Implying that someone is incapable of being a "Good" parent because of the reasons you described is just a horrendous example of semantic gymnastics- You're just aiming to make some sort of outlandish, edgy statement because you think it sounds cool.


 
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Grow up will you?

I wish you weren't so abrasive. I actually have a soft spot for people like you.
This was the best thread for you to say such gay things.


 
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What a ridiculous and stupid mentality.

Yeah, spending your life striving to be the best parent in the world because you know you'll never be good enough is just an awful mindset to have.
You know that isn't what I said.

No, but that's what my mindset breeds.

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Implying that someone is incapable of being a "Good" parent because of the reasons you described is just a horrendous example of semantic gymnastics- You're just aiming to make some sort of outlandish, edgy statement because you think it sounds cool.

Not at all. This life is objectively garbage and bringing a child into it requires certain guarantees from the imposer (the parent). Those things are perfection and bliss, which no parent is capable of providing.

No doubt you disagree but in all honesty it doesn't matter. My mindset is salubrious on all accounts, and to argue against it seems a bit redundant.


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Not at all. This life is objectively garbage and bringing a child into it requires certain guarantees from the imposer (the parent). Those things are perfection and bliss, which no parent is capable of providing.
Oh, please. If I eat a peach, and it's not the best peach I've ever had, do you have some sort of problem with me describing it as "Good?" Because if you do, that's insane. If you want to be an edgy clown and describe all concepts and experiences relative to absolute zero, go ahead. But don't act like your "Mentality" is anything beyond being a glass-half-empty person for the sake of sounding falsely deep and methodical.


 
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If I eat a peach, and it's not the best peach I've ever had, do you have some sort of problem with me describing it as "Good?"

No, I don't...? Why the fuck would I?

Worst comparison I've ever seen.

"Good" parents are still bad parents because they brought children into an existence where they suffered immensely.

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If you want to be an edgy clown and describe all concepts and experiences relative to absolute zero, go ahead. But don't act like your "Mentality" is anything beyond being a glass-half-empty person for the sake of sounding falsely deep and methodical.

None of my ideas are edgy, they've existed for centuries. But if you want to attempt a smear of my credibility with these insults, I don't mind. I could not care less whether anyone adopts my viewpoints or not.


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"Good" parents are still bad parents because they brought children into an existence where they suffered immensely.
Pretending for a second that this was true, even if that were the case, a parent does not bring a child into the world with the expectation and hope that they are going to "Suffer immensely." You can't credit someone with intentionally causing an individual extensive harm if they didn't intend to. That makes it ridiculous to call them a "Bad parent," if they manage to raise a person who becomes successful and happy. They, by definition, clearly were not bad parents.


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And from your perspective, a "Parent" is a bad person anyway, so using the phrase "Bad parent" is redundant and annoying. You have an issue with the concept of conceiving a child, not parenting one.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Homosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.
orphanages would say otherwise

The best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.
So?

So you wanna take advantages away from children?
I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.

The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.
Uh, yeah. That system. That's kinda what started this quote chain, guy. It's fucked up and the state essentially works against clearing people out of it. I'll tell ya son, after seven years of trying to adopt domestically instead of just fostering differen kids every year, a lot of couples get fucking fed up and just pull a baby from China in two weeks.

If a gay couple can help a kid get out of that, then let's give more fags some more kids. We're not taking an advantage away from anyone by doing that. We're giving them an advantage over what they had before.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Homosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.
orphanages would say otherwise

The best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.
So?

So you wanna take advantages away from children?
I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.

The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.
Uh, yeah. That system. That's kinda what started this quote chain, guy. It's fucked up and the state essentially works against clearing people out of it. I'll tell ya son, after seven years of trying to adopt domestically instead of just fostering differen kids every year, a lot of couples get fucking fed up and just pull a baby from China in two weeks.

If a gay couple can help a kid get out of that, then let's give more fags some more kids. We're not taking an advantage away from anyone by doing that. We're giving them an advantage over what they had before.
I've never seen so much Jewish propaganda in my life
Whoa man, I'm not promoting faggotry, I'm just showing the possibility of utilitarian contributions to society that such people have to offer. The Zionists want you goy to be uneducated. What better way to do that than deprive you of a home and a decent schooling?


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Homosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.
orphanages would say otherwise

The best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.
So?

So you wanna take advantages away from children?
I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.

The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.
Uh, yeah. That system. That's kinda what started this quote chain, guy. It's fucked up and the state essentially works against clearing people out of it. I'll tell ya son, after seven years of trying to adopt domestically instead of just fostering differen kids every year, a lot of couples get fucking fed up and just pull a baby from China in two weeks.

If a gay couple can help a kid get out of that, then let's give more fags some more kids. We're not taking an advantage away from anyone by doing that. We're giving them an advantage over what they had before.
I've never seen so much Jewish propaganda in my life
Whoa man, I'm not promoting faggotry, I'm just showing the possibility of utilitarian contributions to society that such people have to offer. The Zionists want you goy to be uneducated. What better way to do that than deprive you of a home and a decent schooling?
>when you meme so much you don't even know who you are or what you stand for anymore
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"Good" parents are still bad parents because they brought children into an existence where they suffered immensely.
Pretending for a second that this was true, even if that were the case, a parent does not bring a child into the world with the expectation and hope that they are going to "Suffer immensely."
And this is PRECISELY why there are no and have never been any "good" parents.

That doesn't mean you can't like your parents. I like mine--hell, I love mine. But are they good parents? No. No such thing.


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"Good" parents are still bad parents because they brought children into an existence where they suffered immensely.
Pretending for a second that this was true, even if that were the case, a parent does not bring a child into the world with the expectation and hope that they are going to "Suffer immensely."
And this is PRECISELY why there are no and have never been any "good" parents.

That doesn't mean you can't like your parents. I like mine--hell, I love mine. But are they good parents? No. No such thing.
"Parenting" is the process of raising a child after they have been born. A "Good parent" is one who takes care of their child, teaches them right from wrong, provides them with a good education, etc. The issue has nothing to do with "Parenting," it's the fact that an event has happened (Birth) that necessitates parenting. Claiming that all parents are inherently bad for having children is misleading; a parent has already gone past conception, which is the moral stepping stone that anti-natalists have an issue with. Again, I think the issue you have is with creating a new person, not taking care of them after the fact.


 
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And it has also yet to be determined whether homosexual marriages establish a healthy growing environment for a child.

The argument or debate should never be "Homosexual parents would establish a suboptimal growing environment", but shitty parents of any sexuality would.

Not to blame you, but the notion that heterosexual parents would establish a better environment simply due to who they fuck is laughable.


 
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Not to blame you, but the notion that heterosexual parents would establish a better environment simply due to who they fuck is laughable.

It isn't about "who they fuck", it's about the child having both a mother and a father figure. That's what's important. Lacking either of those things can create the sub-optimal living conditions I was previously talking about. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on that.


 
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I was in no way trying to convey that heterosexual parents make for better parents because they're better people or something.


 
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Not to blame you, but the notion that heterosexual parents would establish a better environment simply due to who they fuck is laughable.

It isn't about "who they fuck", it's about the child having both a mother and a father figure. That's what's important.

Lacking either of those things can create the sub-optimal living conditions I was previously talking about. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on that.

Which children can get from extended family members (Grandparents, uncles/aunts), family friends, and education instructors - if not just from their parents.

I'm surprised that you would resort to such a silly argument, especially in 2016.


 
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What about parents that adopt though?
They're subject to the same criticism as well. They may not have conceived you, but that doesn't mean they're going to be any better or worse at parenting.

Again, I think the issue you have is with creating a new person, not taking care of them after the fact.
Yeah, I shouldn't have used terms like "good" or "bad," that was a mistake. I would use words like "unworthy."  But I'm not talking about anti-natalism, and I wish you hadn't even used the word. I'm just here to help defend the argument that Snake made, because I happen to agree with him.

The bottom line is that parents will make mistakes. The biggest mistake my parents ever made was to not allow me to take driver's ed during high school, because they deemed the lessons "too expensive." This ended up being an asinine decision, because I spend the rest of my life up until now not knowing how to drive.

This placed an enormous hamper on my life, just because they were unwilling to cough up some money for me to learn an ESSENTIAL skill that would've paid itself back. I could have had three or four jobs by now, if I knew how to drive. I could have so many things. My life would be so much different. But no, my parents were too cheap.

It's mistakes like this--and I'm just ONE example--that separate the good parents from the bad parents. Good parents don't exist because the mistakes that parents make, no matter how small, can lead to catastrophic results. Even if your child ended up happy and successful in adulthood, that doesn't make you a good parent. It makes you lucky.
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You can't credit someone with intentionally causing an individual extensive harm if they didn't intend to.

"God had one Son on earth without sin, but never one without suffering."

Any child who was ever born or ever will be born will suffer immensely. The parents cannot guarantee bliss on earth, so therefore they do intend to inflict pain on their child, albeit, inadvertently.

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And from your perspective, a "Parent" is a bad person anyway, so using the phrase "Bad parent" is redundant and annoying. You have an issue with the concept of conceiving a child, not parenting one.

Every person who ever existed was a bad person, save one. There's just varying degrees of bad. Parents aren't particularly bad, though, because most of them sinply don't put the necessary thought into having a child. It would be like criticising a Lion for eating a Gazell when it doesn't know any better.

And yes, I have an issue with people justifying childbirth with their subpar parenting skills.


 
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Which children can get from extended family members (Grandparents, uncles/aunts), family friends, and education instructors - if not just from their parents.

I'm surprised that you would resort to such a silly argument, especially in 2016.

It well and truly isn't the same, let me assure you. Kids need strong, consistent parental figures every day.

But again, it has yet to be seen whether the problem actually occurs in homosexual marriages.


 
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Even if they're improving the life on a child who already exists in a worse position?

They're still not perfect, which to me, means they're still not good enough. That being said I revere adoptive parents with the utmost respect because they are relative saints to everyone else (given they fulfill adequate levels parental duties and such).

But I have a very low opinion on people in general which brings even the best of us to "subpar".


 
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Any child who was ever born or ever will be born will suffer immensely. The parents cannot guarantee bliss on earth, so therefore they do intend to inflict pain on their child, albeit, inadvertently.
eh

"Intend" and "inadvertently" cannot be used together. They directly contradict each other.

I would just argue that it literally does not matter what the parents intent was. It doesn't reprieve you.