Do you tip servers?

 
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This has been a bit of a struggle between me and the rest of my family. I am convinced that I should only have to pay for what is on the receipt, while others (my grandmother especially) insist on taking the time and effort to whip out a calculator and figure out the correct percentage to give the server.

I understand that in some places (probably all places) the servers are paid less than minimum wage and are expected to make up the rest on tips, but isn't that a kind of shitty and backwards thing to do? Why doesn't the business just pay the server a real wage and let the customers know that a tip isn't needed?

I get called an asshole a lot when I refuse to pitch in on the tip, but I can't justify giving extra money to someone when they're already being paid—especially when it's practically blackmailed out of you. What do you think?

EDIT: to be clear, I don't ever tip.
Last Edit: September 05, 2014, 10:59:29 PM by Cheat


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I rate on service but will go no lower than $4


 
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I'm the lazy kind of guy who just throws every waiter a five. My brother always told me I undertip and my grandmother always tells me that I over tip. But then again, old people in general are shit tippers, so I just never listen to her.


 
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Yes, I know how it is to serve food. I know all to well.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I'm the lazy kind of guy who just throws every waiter a five. My brother always told me I undertip and my grandmother always tells me that I over tip. But then again, old people in general are shit tippers, so I just never listen to her.
Old people are the worst tippers. They think it's still the 1950s and you can go buy a car with 2 nickels.
I'm thoroughly convinced that once somebody reaches the age of 45 their brain starts to loose it's ability to process economics related information.


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if they're obviously just out of high school or starting out in college I usually give them a nice tip somewhere between 10 and 15percent.  my tips depend on thequality of service so if they are bad I usually don't leave them a tip tip


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I always tip well. I know how shitty it can be to work in the service industry.

I tip even more at the bar. Usually 100% on the first drink, and at least a buck each thereafter.


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EDIT: to be clear, I don't ever tip.
And you're called an asshole rightfully so. if you don't tip at the take-out counter or don't tip the guy at Wendy's, that's understandable.

if you don't tip someone who just waited on you for 30+ mins, you're a dick.


 
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Hmm...
EDIT: to be clear, I don't ever tip.
And you're called an asshole rightfully so. if you don't tip at the take-out counter or don't tip the guy at Wendy's, that's understandable.

if you don't tip someone who just waited on you for 30+ mins, you're a dick.
But that's their job to do so. How are these kinds of extra money helpful at all when the restaurant could do what every other business does and pay their workers for working?
Last Edit: September 05, 2014, 11:33:34 PM by Cheat


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EDIT: to be clear, I don't ever tip.
And you're called an asshole rightfully so. if you don't tip at the take-out counter or don't tip the guy at Wendy's, that's understandable.

if you don't tip someone who just waited on you for 30+ mins, you're a dick.
But that's their job to do so. How are these kinds of extra money helpful at all when the restaurant could do what every other business does and pay their workers for working?
Not to mention...
Many times fast food workers deal with way more shit than waiters do. I mean think of all those poor McDonald's cashiers.

...I just got reminded of that HuffPo article you showed me, with the Burger King lady screaming her face off about how she didn't get her extra ketchup or whatever.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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I always tip 20%, unless the server is a complete asshole. Even then, I tip 10%. I don't get pissy if other people don't, though.


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No, I don't when the service is average, or lower quality, and I hate all the cunts who try to enforce tipping culture. the only time you should ever tip, is when the service warrants it, not because "the boss doesn't pay minimum wage." you don't like that the job isn't paying well enough? then fucking get a better job.


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Tipping really isn't an issue you can look at financially/economically.

It's a social/moral convention. It's not immoral, per se, for you to not tip, but it annoys the rest of the tribe when you violate a social convention - especially if it indirectly harms another member of the tribe.


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*tips server*
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Last Edit: September 06, 2014, 05:44:53 AM by Doom DH


 
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I don't tip here in London, waiters here get more than minimum wage.


 
 
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I can't really tip because as a student I need the money  ::)


But if it's really good service (the local Indian restaurants' servers strike up conversations which is nice) then I give what I can (but atm it's never over £5). If it's standard "heres yer food, enjoy", then I know they get paid enough to not rely on tips for a wage.


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I would agree with tipping were it not so inconsistent. As the scene amiably points out, why do we feel the need to tip waiters, but not fast food workers, or anyone else in the minimum wage service industry? Also, if tipping is SO essential to the well being of these workers, how are businesses getting away with paying their workers below minimum wage? Especially seeing how strict and rigorous wage laws are in contemporary society.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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I would agree with tipping were it not so inconsistent. As the scene amiably points out, why do we feel the need to tip waiters, but not fast food workers, or anyone else in the minimum wage service industry? Also, if tipping is SO essential to the well being of these workers, how are businesses getting away with paying their workers below minimum wage? Especially seeing how strict and rigorous wage laws are in contemporary society.
Restaurant servers are particular in that, because of tips, employers are allowed to pay them much less than the minimum wage. You'll frequently see postings for waiter jobs that advertise things like "$3 an hour, plus tips." It's pretty messed up that the government allows that, sure. But it doesn't make your server any less screwed if you decide not to tip him.


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I understand that in some places (probably all places) the servers are paid less than minimum wage and are expected to make up the rest on tips, but isn't that a kind of shitty and backwards thing to do? Why doesn't the business just pay the server a real wage and let the customers know that a tip isn't needed?
It doesn't fucking matter what the restaurant does, it's the servers that you're hurting. If you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't eat out, and if you can but don't because of some bullshit value system you have, you're just a shitty person.


 
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I'm a busboy, so of course I make sure that I tip (Or my family tips) on every bill in a restaurant.


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I'm a busboy, so of course I make sure that I tip (Or my family tips) on every bill in a restaurant.
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I'm a busboy, so of course I make sure that I tip (Or my family tips) on every bill in a restaurant.
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I neither fear, nor despise.
I'm a server at Olive Garden.
If I wasn't given tips, I'd make a measly $4.50 an hour.

If you want to make restaurants pay their employees more,
not tipping isn't the answer.

Because for every time you don't tip, someone else does.
And the restaurant doesn't lose money, only the server.


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<.<
It's not really a huge thing over in britbongistan <.<

Waiting staff get paid minimum wage plus tips. So the tips have to be earned over here <.<
It's not like they have to jump through hoops for our amusement though, just being polite and attentive is all that's needed to get a tip >.>

It's certainly one of the reasons why I'm cautious about ever going to Amurika; apart from being groped by the TSA, shot in the street by the police or being suffocated by a bloater on a bus ._.
From the way I hear it, if you don't tip in the USA that's the social equivalent of taking a piss on the table in the restaurant .-.