Do you believe morals and values would exist in a world without religion?

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This question was raised today by my sociology professor, and he has a rather uncommon approach to this question. What do you guys think?


 
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Yes, no reason for them not to. Religion alone isn't a moral compass, though it gives one. it shouldn't be the only thing that determines what a person should deem right or wrong.


 
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To answer OP, of course there would be morals. It's stupid to think there wouldn't be.


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Yes, though in prehistoric human age, not sure if possible. Could it support a functionimg society. I have no idea but with the rise of civilization so did religion and ethics. Do we need religion now to make ethical decision in this day and age. No. Still it is a question that i dunno leads to many What If's.


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Certainly. How someone could connect religion and morality together I've no idea, because there's plenty of religious and non-religious people who have been immoral.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Yes.

Science can tell us morality.


 
 
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Why wouldn't they? You don't need religion to know that killing or raping somebody is wrong. Hell even with religion we still have people getting killed or raped. 


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Personally, no because if you look at China and other atheist countries, they're miserable and only really care about money and power.
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and Pol Pot were all atheists and killed millions of people. I'm inclined to think there doesn't exist a single, murderous dictator that isn't atheist.
I don't respect you nearly enough to act as if you're serious.

Also, just as a digression, Father Tiso and Francisco Franco.

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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
You don't actually believe they were atheists, correct? Hitler said he did what he did as work for God.
Hitler probably was an atheist. German society in the 1930s, however, was inseparable from Christianity.

Nonetheless, they didn't do any of it because they were atheists.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I've seen no credible evidence to suggest Hitler was atheist, if we're only going by his own words it's likely he was Catholic.
I'd try and find some but the computers in my college have pretty much any information relating to Hitler blocked on the grounds of "intolerant material".


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Of course, I believe humans, even without religion or religious ideas, would always want to do good.