Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on October 01, 2014, 02:40:34 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on October 01, 2014, 02:35:45 PMNot to mention that access to mental health treatment is a fracking joke in the Western World.Correct again, which leads on to what conclusions?There is none, merely highlighting the bullshit of society.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on October 01, 2014, 02:35:45 PMNot to mention that access to mental health treatment is a fracking joke in the Western World.Correct again, which leads on to what conclusions?
Not to mention that access to mental health treatment is a fracking joke in the Western World.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on October 01, 2014, 02:41:06 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on October 01, 2014, 02:40:34 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on October 01, 2014, 02:35:45 PMNot to mention that access to mental health treatment is a fracking joke in the Western World.Correct again, which leads on to what conclusions?There is none, merely highlighting the bullshit of society.Partially correct. If we actually cared about mental health, if we stopped stigmatizing those who seek help, if we stop conditioning people to believe that sexual abuse is the single worst thing that can happen to you and that the correct response to it is to lie on the couch and watch Lifetime movies until you kill yourself with a handful of sleeping tablets and a bottle of wine, maybe we'd see more improvements in the treatment, cultural perception, and personal struggles of the survivors of abuse. When that's realized, I would argue that ending an innocent life is far worse than traumatizing one.
Child molestation can easily be argued as worse than adult murder.
Quote from: SecondClass on October 01, 2014, 06:15:12 PMQuote from: Dustin on October 01, 2014, 06:03:24 PMChild molestation can easily be argued as worse than adult murder.Nope. A traumatized life is far better than no life at all. You can get over trauma. You can't get over not existing.In your opinion...You know you do have a nasty habit of shoving your opinion down as fact. Meta has the same problem.
Quote from: Dustin on October 01, 2014, 06:03:24 PMChild molestation can easily be argued as worse than adult murder.Nope. A traumatized life is far better than no life at all. You can get over trauma. You can't get over not existing.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on October 01, 2014, 02:52:27 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on October 01, 2014, 02:41:06 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on October 01, 2014, 02:40:34 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on October 01, 2014, 02:35:45 PMNot to mention that access to mental health treatment is a fracking joke in the Western World.Correct again, which leads on to what conclusions?There is none, merely highlighting the bullshit of society.Partially correct. If we actually cared about mental health, if we stopped stigmatizing those who seek help, if we stop conditioning people to believe that sexual abuse is the single worst thing that can happen to you and that the correct response to it is to lie on the couch and watch Lifetime movies until you kill yourself with a handful of sleeping tablets and a bottle of wine, maybe we'd see more improvements in the treatment, cultural perception, and personal struggles of the survivors of abuse. When that's realized, I would argue that ending an innocent life is far worse than traumatizing one.Well god damn <.<This is going to be one of those things that I remember and use later on, thanks for this Das. It's one of those rare perception changing moments for me, so thank you again >.>
He deserved it and not just because he was a pedophile. I would be happy to see any kind of criminal get killed in prison.
Quote from: SecondClass on October 01, 2014, 06:15:12 PMQuote from: Dustin on October 01, 2014, 06:03:24 PMChild molestation can easily be argued as worse than adult murder.Nope. A traumatized life is far better than no life at all. You can get over trauma. You can't get over not existing.You can't get over trauma. Tell that to soldiers, sailors, pilots, and marines that get PTSD. Combat and rape are both experiences that will psychologically damage a person all their lives
Quote from: Kinder_ on October 01, 2014, 08:01:52 PMQuote from: SecondClass on October 01, 2014, 06:15:12 PMQuote from: Dustin on October 01, 2014, 06:03:24 PMChild molestation can easily be argued as worse than adult murder.Nope. A traumatized life is far better than no life at all. You can get over trauma. You can't get over not existing.You can't get over trauma. Tell that to soldiers, sailors, pilots, and marines that get PTSD. Combat and rape are both experiences that will psychologically damage a person all their livesYou can get over trauma, actually. It's usually hard, sure, but it's definitely possible. If you're killed, you have no chance of getting over it.
And death is a far better option than having to live a struggling life.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on October 01, 2014, 02:10:11 PMSome people who were molested as children would be rather be deadThen they should kill themselves. Life is the most important thing we have. It's our entire existence. Taking that away is leagues worse than traumatizing someone.
Some people who were molested as children would be rather be dead
Meta has the same problem.
Quote from: SecondClass on October 01, 2014, 02:21:48 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on October 01, 2014, 02:10:11 PMSome people who were molested as children would be rather be deadThen they should kill themselves. Life is the most important thing we have. It's our entire existence. Taking that away is leagues worse than traumatizing someone.I would have to disagree. When someone lives through rape, they're going to have to live with that forever but if someone is murdered they won't remember it because obviously they're dead. The rapist deserved what he got, maybe not as brutal, but either way he deserved to die.
Quote from: Karma on October 02, 2014, 02:25:09 AMQuote from: SecondClass on October 01, 2014, 02:21:48 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on October 01, 2014, 02:10:11 PMSome people who were molested as children would be rather be deadThen they should kill themselves. Life is the most important thing we have. It's our entire existence. Taking that away is leagues worse than traumatizing someone.I would have to disagree. When someone lives through rape, they're going to have to live with that forever but if someone is murdered they won't remember it because obviously they're dead. The rapist deserved what he got, maybe not as brutal, but either way he deserved to die.One, you can get over trauma. People ITT who are saying that everyone who's ever been traumatized will always live with it forever are simply wrong. There's a huge branch of therapy that deals specifically with trauma relief.And two, no one deserves to die. Ever. I don't care if we captured Hitler after WWII, the death penalty, or "righteous killings" that are punitive in nature, are never justified.
the death penalty is never justified
Paedophile dis-embowelled in prison, and people are frigging happy about it
