Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 14, 2016, 10:28:53 PMIt's possible to want to avoid conflict with Russia Traitor.
It's possible to want to avoid conflict with Russia
Sometimes it's those who cry for peace and say no to war who cause far more harm than those willing to fight.
Quote from: Luciana on December 15, 2016, 04:42:53 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 03:52:25 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 03:03:33 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 02:53:50 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:33:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 05:59:37 AMWhy do people want to avoid confilict with Russia? I don't get it.is it really that difficult for you to grasp why some would want to avoid war with one of the US' major power rivalsi dont think it isIs it that difficult for you to grasp that it won't come to using nukes? We shouldn't be so afraid to tell Russia what for.i made no mention of nukes so i dont know why youd bring that up.So what's the big deal?because we'd be going to war with another superpower. i dont know why youre being so obtuse.Russia is nowhere near a superpower, despite how much they try to project they are.And to answer your point directly, so what SHOULD we do? Continue sanctions? As much as I'd love to, and as much as Europe is slowly finally coming on board to actually buffing up their military (thanks, Poland), Trump seems all too eager to get rid of those sanctions.let me reiterate, then"because we'd be going to war.i don't know why you're being so obtuse."we shouldnt be eager to send troops to fight anywhere. that should be a last resort.
Quote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 03:52:25 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 03:03:33 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 02:53:50 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:33:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 05:59:37 AMWhy do people want to avoid confilict with Russia? I don't get it.is it really that difficult for you to grasp why some would want to avoid war with one of the US' major power rivalsi dont think it isIs it that difficult for you to grasp that it won't come to using nukes? We shouldn't be so afraid to tell Russia what for.i made no mention of nukes so i dont know why youd bring that up.So what's the big deal?because we'd be going to war with another superpower. i dont know why youre being so obtuse.Russia is nowhere near a superpower, despite how much they try to project they are.And to answer your point directly, so what SHOULD we do? Continue sanctions? As much as I'd love to, and as much as Europe is slowly finally coming on board to actually buffing up their military (thanks, Poland), Trump seems all too eager to get rid of those sanctions.
Quote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 03:03:33 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 02:53:50 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:33:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 05:59:37 AMWhy do people want to avoid confilict with Russia? I don't get it.is it really that difficult for you to grasp why some would want to avoid war with one of the US' major power rivalsi dont think it isIs it that difficult for you to grasp that it won't come to using nukes? We shouldn't be so afraid to tell Russia what for.i made no mention of nukes so i dont know why youd bring that up.So what's the big deal?because we'd be going to war with another superpower. i dont know why youre being so obtuse.
Quote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 02:53:50 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:33:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 05:59:37 AMWhy do people want to avoid confilict with Russia? I don't get it.is it really that difficult for you to grasp why some would want to avoid war with one of the US' major power rivalsi dont think it isIs it that difficult for you to grasp that it won't come to using nukes? We shouldn't be so afraid to tell Russia what for.i made no mention of nukes so i dont know why youd bring that up.So what's the big deal?
Quote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 02:53:50 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:33:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 05:59:37 AMWhy do people want to avoid confilict with Russia? I don't get it.is it really that difficult for you to grasp why some would want to avoid war with one of the US' major power rivalsi dont think it isIs it that difficult for you to grasp that it won't come to using nukes? We shouldn't be so afraid to tell Russia what for.i made no mention of nukes so i dont know why youd bring that up.
Quote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:33:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 05:59:37 AMWhy do people want to avoid confilict with Russia? I don't get it.is it really that difficult for you to grasp why some would want to avoid war with one of the US' major power rivalsi dont think it isIs it that difficult for you to grasp that it won't come to using nukes? We shouldn't be so afraid to tell Russia what for.
Quote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 05:59:37 AMWhy do people want to avoid confilict with Russia? I don't get it.is it really that difficult for you to grasp why some would want to avoid war with one of the US' major power rivalsi dont think it is
Why do people want to avoid confilict with Russia? I don't get it.
Quote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 04:46:28 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 15, 2016, 04:42:53 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 03:52:25 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 03:03:33 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 02:53:50 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:33:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 05:59:37 AMWhy do people want to avoid confilict with Russia? I don't get it.is it really that difficult for you to grasp why some would want to avoid war with one of the US' major power rivalsi dont think it isIs it that difficult for you to grasp that it won't come to using nukes? We shouldn't be so afraid to tell Russia what for.i made no mention of nukes so i dont know why youd bring that up.So what's the big deal?because we'd be going to war with another superpower. i dont know why youre being so obtuse.Russia is nowhere near a superpower, despite how much they try to project they are.And to answer your point directly, so what SHOULD we do? Continue sanctions? As much as I'd love to, and as much as Europe is slowly finally coming on board to actually buffing up their military (thanks, Poland), Trump seems all too eager to get rid of those sanctions.let me reiterate, then"because we'd be going to war.i don't know why you're being so obtuse."we shouldnt be eager to send troops to fight anywhere. that should be a last resort.That doesn't really answer my question though. What would you rather we do?
Quote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 03:03:33 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 02:53:50 PMQuote from: Eli on December 15, 2016, 02:33:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 15, 2016, 05:59:37 AMWhy do people want to avoid confilict with Russia? I don't get it.is it really that difficult for you to grasp why some would want to avoid war with one of the US' major power rivalsi dont think it isIs it that difficult for you to grasp that it won't come to using nukes? We shouldn't be so afraid to tell Russia what for.i made no mention of nukes so i dont know why youd bring that up.So what's the big deal?Some people are pacifists and realize that death is death is death is death.