plain stupidly wrong.
Quote from: Cheat on December 29, 2014, 02:54:45 PMplain stupidly wrong.you had the chance to make a really bad plane pun and you blew it
I completely bought everything that was sort of...presented by the news and general word of mouth for several years. But then I learned about the building 7 collapse and...it's really fishy.I'm not completely sure what happened and I'm not one of those completely paranoid conspiracy theorists, but it's clear to me that a lot of information about that day was covered up or is just plain stupidly wrong.
Quote from: Cheat on December 29, 2014, 02:54:45 PMI completely bought everything that was sort of...presented by the news and general word of mouth for several years. But then I learned about the building 7 collapse and...it's really fishy.I'm not completely sure what happened and I'm not one of those completely paranoid conspiracy theorists, but it's clear to me that a lot of information about that day was covered up or is just plain stupidly wrong.Once I'm on my computer I'd love to explain why Tower 7's collapse made sense, but the long and short of it is that dropping a huge chunk of a building from hundreds of feet up onto another building is not conducive to its structural integrity, and burning jet fuel can and will drastically weaken steel.
To add to turkey's infobomb, Jet A is some pretty nasty stuff, with a 450* autoignition temp, a typical 600* fully open dirty burn temp, and a potential 1,900* controlled burn temperature. The Boeing 767 took a 10,000 gallon fuel load for it's short flight. That's close to 65k lbs of fuel (this aircraft has a 315,000 max gross weight, mind you). When Jet A is properly atomized, it burns pretty god damn quick. That's why the GPH rating on small turbine aircraft is so much higher than even the absurdly large piston twins. When it's not atomized, and you've managed to ignite it, it's going to be a slow burn, because it's the vapors that are igniting and Jet A evaporates very slowly*. Definitely slow enough to damage the structural integrity of steel. *the scent of it also lingers on clothing for days, potentially weeks if untreated. Ask me how I know...
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 30, 2014, 08:37:02 PMTo add to turkey's infobomb, Jet A is some pretty nasty stuff, with a 450* autoignition temp, a typical 600* fully open dirty burn temp, and a potential 1,900* controlled burn temperature. The Boeing 767 took a 10,000 gallon fuel load for it's short flight. That's close to 65k lbs of fuel (this aircraft has a 315,000 max gross weight, mind you). When Jet A is properly atomized, it burns pretty god damn quick. That's why the GPH rating on small turbine aircraft is so much higher than even the absurdly large piston twins. When it's not atomized, and you've managed to ignite it, it's going to be a slow burn, because it's the vapors that are igniting and Jet A evaporates very slowly*. Definitely slow enough to damage the structural integrity of steel. *the scent of it also lingers on clothing for days, potentially weeks if untreated. Ask me how I know...how do you know
Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on December 30, 2014, 08:45:25 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 30, 2014, 08:37:02 PMTo add to turkey's infobomb, Jet A is some pretty nasty stuff, with a 450* autoignition temp, a typical 600* fully open dirty burn temp, and a potential 1,900* controlled burn temperature. The Boeing 767 took a 10,000 gallon fuel load for it's short flight. That's close to 65k lbs of fuel (this aircraft has a 315,000 max gross weight, mind you). When Jet A is properly atomized, it burns pretty god damn quick. That's why the GPH rating on small turbine aircraft is so much higher than even the absurdly large piston twins. When it's not atomized, and you've managed to ignite it, it's going to be a slow burn, because it's the vapors that are igniting and Jet A evaporates very slowly*. Definitely slow enough to damage the structural integrity of steel. *the scent of it also lingers on clothing for days, potentially weeks if untreated. Ask me how I know...how do you knowI've tried sumping our jet truck before I get my morning coffee.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 30, 2014, 08:47:51 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on December 30, 2014, 08:45:25 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 30, 2014, 08:37:02 PMTo add to turkey's infobomb, Jet A is some pretty nasty stuff, with a 450* autoignition temp, a typical 600* fully open dirty burn temp, and a potential 1,900* controlled burn temperature. The Boeing 767 took a 10,000 gallon fuel load for it's short flight. That's close to 65k lbs of fuel (this aircraft has a 315,000 max gross weight, mind you). When Jet A is properly atomized, it burns pretty god damn quick. That's why the GPH rating on small turbine aircraft is so much higher than even the absurdly large piston twins. When it's not atomized, and you've managed to ignite it, it's going to be a slow burn, because it's the vapors that are igniting and Jet A evaporates very slowly*. Definitely slow enough to damage the structural integrity of steel. *the scent of it also lingers on clothing for days, potentially weeks if untreated. Ask me how I know...how do you knowI've tried sumping our jet truck before I get my morning coffee.sumping?