Dear all those who support a living wage

More Than Mortal · August 13, 2014, 05:24:25 PM

Even Paul fucking Krugman doesn't agree.

Also, Kinder, he has - rightly - likened opposition to free-trade to opposing evolution by natural selection.

All from a fucking Keynesian!

Kinder Graham · August 13, 2014, 06:28:57 PM

Raising the minimum wage is a joke. Want to live without having two jobs? How about lowering the price of goods instead

challengerX · August 13, 2014, 06:30:25 PM

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Reciffo_Smmoc · August 13, 2014, 06:32:48 PM

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challengerX · August 13, 2014, 06:33:45 PM

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Reciffo_Smmoc · August 13, 2014, 06:34:09 PM

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Kinder Graham · August 13, 2014, 06:37:13 PM

Quote from: challengerX on August 13, 2014, 06:30:25 PM

>Kinder
>Thinks he knows anything about the economy

I lol'd my pants.

>challenger

I lol'd into orbit

Hey, is your username indicative to how mentally challenged you are?

Reciffo_Smmoc · August 13, 2014, 06:40:56 PM

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More Than Mortal · August 13, 2014, 06:41:17 PM

Quote from: Kinder_ on August 13, 2014, 06:28:57 PM

Raising the minimum wage is a joke. Want to live without having two jobs? How about lowering the price of goods instead

That sounds dangerously like an advocation for price controls.

Reciffo_Smmoc · August 13, 2014, 06:42:35 PM

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Kinder Graham · August 13, 2014, 06:46:47 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 13, 2014, 06:41:17 PM

That sounds dangerously like an advocation for price controls.

Actually it's not. It's an advocation for people to express their purchasing power and to refrain from buying over-priced shit. Once companies realize they're not selling stuff they'll have to lower prices

Reciffo_Smmoc · August 13, 2014, 06:48:46 PM

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Kinder Graham · August 13, 2014, 06:48:53 PM

Quote from: Weed Commando on August 13, 2014, 06:40:56 PM

I think your avatar does a better job at that. Like, what the actual shit is your avatar meant to be? Refined autism?

Ryle made it in that [INTESIFIES] thread for me. Maybe if you didn't have your head stuck up your ass by conducting your autistic shitposting "swage" nonsense then you'd be able to see that thread

More Than Mortal · August 13, 2014, 06:49:04 PM

Quote from: Kinder_ on August 13, 2014, 06:46:47 PM

Actually it's not. It's an advocation for people to express their purchasing power and to refrain from buying over-priced shit. Once companies realize they're not selling stuff they'll have to lower prices

That I agree with.

Kinder Graham · August 13, 2014, 06:49:54 PM

Quote from: Weed Commando on August 13, 2014, 06:48:46 PM

>says it's not price control

>idea is obviously price control

AHHAHAHHAHA

You're a fucktard, aren't you? Something is literally right in front of your eyes and you still insist on something of the total opposite

Reciffo_Smmoc · August 13, 2014, 06:50:34 PM

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Kinder Graham · August 13, 2014, 06:51:26 PM

Quote from: Weed Commando on August 13, 2014, 06:50:34 PM

Haha, you're so fucking mad right now. Do you want a lollipop? Or some lube for your most "beloved" Mosin-Nagant.

Nah, you're just a dumbwitted autistic retard

Reciffo_Smmoc · August 13, 2014, 06:51:43 PM

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Reciffo_Smmoc · August 13, 2014, 06:52:26 PM

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Magos Domina · August 13, 2014, 06:52:55 PM

Weed, Kinder both of you calm down or another thread will get locked.

Enough of the insults.

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challengerX · August 13, 2014, 06:56:17 PM

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rC · August 13, 2014, 07:54:07 PM

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More Than Mortal · August 13, 2014, 08:11:15 PM

Quote from: RC5908 on August 13, 2014, 07:54:07 PM

YouTube

Summarise it.

Mad Max · August 13, 2014, 10:37:05 PM

I think there comes a point when we need to balance our philosophies with what is best for the people we share our country/planet with.

I'm sorry that a living wage is incompatible with your economic philosophy, but people should be paid enough to put a roof over their head, food on their table, and clothes on their back.

More Than Mortal · August 13, 2014, 10:41:07 PM

Quote from: Mad Max on August 13, 2014, 10:37:05 PM

I think there comes a point when we need to balance our philosophies with what is best for the people we share our country/planet with.

I'm sorry that a living wage is incompatible with your economic philosophy, but people should be paid enough to put a roof over their head, food on their table, and clothes on their back.

The problem with raising the minimum wage is that you immediately cut out those below that level of productivity. Price floors always create an expansion in supply, and only end up helping those who manage to remain in the workforce.

The best thing to raise workers' wages would be, primarily, reductions in taxation on both lower incomes and corporations. The second step, I believe, would be the abolition of the minimum wage and the reform of welfare along the lines of a negative income tax or basic income guarantee.

DAS B00T x2 · August 13, 2014, 10:50:03 PM

I don't think that minimum wage should be a livibale solo wage automatically, I just don't think all of todays min wage jobs should be min wage.
I mean, I work for a rather small FBO fueling and towing aircraft. It's not exactly "skilled labor" but it's not something just any motherfucker off the streets can do. We have an employee now who proves that... but anyway, I actually work less during my shift than a fast food worker does during half of his most days and make a good bit more. That makes no sense to me.
We need to rethink how we think physical labor should be rated on a payscale.

rC · August 13, 2014, 11:55:04 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 13, 2014, 08:11:15 PM

Summarise it.

Very, very, very rich man advocates for increased wages. The overall message, though, is that plutocrats are fucked.

Dustin · August 14, 2014, 12:51:59 AM

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Nascent Email · August 14, 2014, 01:09:29 AM

Quote from: RC5908 on August 13, 2014, 11:55:04 PM

Very, very, very rich man advocates for increased wages. The overall message, though, is that plutocrats are fucked.

Yet he seems to miss the first lesson of value. The more of something there is the less valuable it is. He advocates increasing the minimum wage but then misses that because the minimum wage has been increased the value of each piece of currency will decrease as prices grow larger to fit the new state of affairs.