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I could say a few things about the theft that Trump University conducted, but I won't.

All that I'm going to say is that if the money the Clinton Foundation received was used to assist and better the lives of people in less fortunate positions and countries, then I'm indifferent as to who donated it (Within reason).


 
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People say the election was rigged on the Democratic side. Not really, just heavily biased in favor of Clinton.
It doesn't help that you have a corporate news media, where some including Time Warner (CNN's parent company) gave money to Clinton. The way the Associated Press declared Clinton the presumptive nominee before the California primary is just one example of corruption in media and their influence on the way people vote.
Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 10:21:05 PM by Dan


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
People say the election was rigged on the Democratic side. Not really, just heavily biased in favor of Clinton.
It doesn't help that you have a corporate news media, where some including Time Warner (CNN's parent company) gave money to Clinton. The way the Associated Press declared Clinton the presumptive nominee before the California primary is just one example of corruption in media and their influence on the way people vote.
Clinton has received the most negative news coverage of any candidate this cycle.


 
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I could say a few things about the theft that Trump University conducted, but I won't.

All that I'm going to say is that if the money the Clinton Foundation received was used to assist and better the lives of people in less fortunate positions and countries, then I'm indifferent as to who donated it (Within reason).

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People say the election was rigged on the Democratic side. Not really, just heavily biased in favor of Clinton.
It doesn't help that you have a corporate news media, where some including Time Warner (CNN's parent company) gave money to Clinton. The way the Associated Press declared Clinton the presumptive nominee before the California primary is just one example of corruption in media and their influence on the way people vote.
Clinton has received the most negative news coverage of any candidate this cycle.
You're telling me that CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NY Times, and the Washington Post have been critical of Clinton?
It seems like the only mainstream media source willing to talk about Clinton's scandals is Fox News.
Last Edit: June 14, 2016, 12:49:18 AM by Dan


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People say the election was rigged on the Democratic side. Not really, just heavily biased in favor of Clinton.
It doesn't help that you have a corporate news media, where some including Time Warner (CNN's parent company) gave money to Clinton. The way the Associated Press declared Clinton the presumptive nominee before the California primary is just one example of corruption in media and their influence on the way people vote.
Clinton has received the most negative news coverage of any candidate this cycle.
that's the most incorrect thing i've read all month


 
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that's the most incorrect thing i've read all month
Clearly not.


 
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I'm genuinely surprised you three find that to be an incredulous proposition. Clinton is widely acknowledged as something of a zombie candidate.


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that's the most incorrect thing i've read all month
Clearly not.
That seems to only mention online articles.  I think what the others were talking about was TV Broadcasting.


 
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that's the most incorrect thing i've read all month
Clearly not.
That seems to only mention online articles.  I think what the others were talking about was TV Broadcasting.
True, I should've made that clear.

Although not only did she get the most negative coverage, she also got the least positive coverage. And given the importance of electronic media to today's political cycles, it's not as if my position is made significantly weaker, nor does it seem likely that those companies broadcast significantly different coverage--tonally--on television than they do online.

A Harvard study of the invisible primaries tells the same story: Clinton had bad coverage.


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Skimming through (I might have missed the explanation), but it didn't seem like they accounted for the type/range of like/dislike. 

For example, Bernie Sanders being labeled a socialist would seem more (negatively) impactful than say a negative article on Clinton's handling of Benghazi.  So while Clinton might have received more "negative" press than anyone else, wouldn't you say the degree to which it's negative should also be considered?
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
For example, Bernie Sanders being labeled a socialist would seem more (negatively) impactful than say a negative article on Clinton's handling of Benghazi.  So while Clinton might have received more "negative" press than anyone else,
As to your claim that Sanders being labelled a socialist would harm his chances, I highly doubt that, given that a majority of both self-identified Democrats and liberals have a favourable view of socialism.

Despite what most people seem to think--and would have you believe--America has a pretty rich history with socialism.

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wouldn't you say the degree to which it's negative should also be considered?
How would you quantify that?
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As to your claim that Sanders being labelled a socialist would harm his chances, I highly doubt that, given that a majority of both self-identified Democrats and liberals have a favourable view of socialism.

That was just an example, an exaggeration so to speak.  I was moreso trying to find a way to illustrate clearly that not all negatives are equal.  Socialism stuck out as an extreme to me because my family is pro-Trump and toss it around as bringer of destruction.  I guess a better analogy would be the different ways we perceive crimes.  Someone who jay walks or goes 5mph over the speed limit a hundred times is probably going to be viewed less offensively than someone who murders or rapes once. 

So back to where we were, Hillary seems to have a lot of negative press, but a lot seems to be minor things people don't really care about.  Like Benghazi.  How many negative articles have been made about Benghazi when there is still yet to be any incriminating evidence of wrong doing?  Aside from a few right leaning groups, everyone seems to have moved on from it and ignores it.

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wouldn't you say the degree to which it's negative should also be considered?
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How would you quantify that?

I'm not sure.  I am not in statistics.  But I do think that the variation in "ethical perception" (what I'll call it) plays a role.