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What is your attitude towards selfishness?

Selfishness is good.
1 (3.3%)
Selfishness is generally good.
3 (10%)
Selfishness is neutral.
15 (50%)
Selfishness is generally bad.
8 (26.7%)
Selfishness is bad.
3 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 30

SQS: Is it good to be selfish?

 
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Simple Question Sunday.

They say there are no selfless deeds. If so, what does that say about selfishness?

No further elaborations here. I really want you guys to think about this one, because I think it's important.


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To me it's neither a good or bad thing.


 
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The Rage....
yes

plain and simple


 
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The Rage....
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If you have a family and all you're doing is buying shit for yourself I will say that's a bad thing. I'm not saying you can't buy yourself anything but you should buy your family something or do something with that money every now and then. Instead of buying yourself another video game which you don't need at the moment. You could use that money to buy your parents, sibling, wife or kid(s) something instead.


 
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Excessively selfish behavior seems to be more a symptom of other psychological behaviors though, so I can't fault it on its own.


 
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Generally bad, but it all depends on the situation.


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It can depend.

Am I donating money to a charitable cause because the end goal is to make me look good, or is it stealing money so I can buy something for myself later?

Sometimes selfishness has an indirect result of being a good act to people around you or those involved in the act, while it can also be straight up malicious in nature with no intended or unintended good outcomes for anyone but yourself. It's easier to do the latter of course, so I'd hazard that selfishness is seen as a more negative thing because we are lazy and it's just easier to be a total asshole more of the time than "selfishness in disguise".
Last Edit: November 01, 2015, 11:18:59 AM by SuperIrish


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Everyone works in accordance of their own values and beliefs, in the end the difference is how those things effect others.


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Sometimes, catering to yourself is actually the least selfish thing you can do; if it'll help you be able to contribute more towards other peoples' lives in the future. It's a very grey question, because you have to consider the result of an act that's selfish in the moment, but actually more charitable later on. Granted, this is a really rare circumstance, as far as I know.

Also, another way I can look at this is whether or not you can justify selfishness where nobody really benefits but yourself. I believe that it's important to indulge a little bit in life, and have fun, so long as you aren't hurting anybody else as a result. Constantly dedicating yourself to the needs of others without catering to your own is a mind-numbing way to live your life.

And then, another way of looking at it is understanding that literally everything you do is selfish. Literally everything; even the most unselfish thing you can think of. If I donate my life savings to some charity, I've done a great thing, and I've deprived myself of a quality life as a result. But at the same time, it was still a selfish action, because you did it because you knew you would be satisfied with the result, and gratify yourself.


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Selfishness is definitely good.


 
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It all depends on the context. Selfishness doesn't exist in a black and white picture. It's like a big long colour strip, I'd figure. With basically, one end gaining you more because of your selfish actions that extend far beyond yourself and what you need, and the other end, gaining you less, only requiring the bare minimum of self interest and need.

Honestly, I think the closest thing you can ever come to a selfless act, is willingly dying for saving somebody else. And not a spur of the moment choice either, but a fully aware choice where the only likely outcome will be death. At that point, you yourself will have nothing to gain because you'll be dead.

But I honestly can't really say. I think selfishness itself is neutral.

But the manner in which you direct your selfishness and actively shape it, so to speak, on that little colour strip detemermines whether it's "bad" or "good."


 
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Selfishness is actually needed in everything you do, on another note.

Your interests, your motivations, your likes, and dislikes, and the way you act on them, are all selfish. We have to look at the word selfish, but not in the negative light that it's associated with. On a blank note "self-ish" simply means that you have an interest in self.

You have an identity, so to speak. An identity that has needs and wants. But the word selfish comes into play when people's needs and wants, and actions, extend far beyond what their personal self really should need.

Selfless, is just the opposite, of course, in that your needs and wants take less presidence. But, it can be argued no doubt, that some selfless people are selfless because they enjoy it. They enjoy helping others. And therefore they have something to gain. Happiness and satisfaction.

But their output produces more, rather than taking more.

So, I still think that overall, selfishness is neutral. Because it's always there, in everything we do. But the direction we choose to extend that selfishness, to either reach outwards and pull everything in, or to go inwards, and push everything out, is all a matter of choice.