it's about the child having both a mother and a father figure.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 04, 2016, 04:32:46 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 04:08:21 PMWhat about parents that adopt though?They're subject to the same criticism as well. They may not have conceived you, but that doesn't mean they're going to be any better or worse at parenting.Even if they're improving the life on a child who already exists in a worse position?
Quote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 04:08:21 PMWhat about parents that adopt though?They're subject to the same criticism as well. They may not have conceived you, but that doesn't mean they're going to be any better or worse at parenting.
What about parents that adopt though?
Quote from: Callous on July 04, 2016, 04:32:50 PMAny child who was ever born or ever will be born will suffer immensely. The parents cannot guarantee bliss on earth, so therefore they do intend to inflict pain on their child, albeit, inadvertently. eh"Intend" and "inadvertently" cannot be used together. They directly contradict each other.I would just argue that it literally does not matter what the parents intent was. It doesn't reprieve you.
Any child who was ever born or ever will be born will suffer immensely. The parents cannot guarantee bliss on earth, so therefore they do intend to inflict pain on their child, albeit, inadvertently.
Quote from: Callous on July 04, 2016, 04:18:40 PM it's about the child having both a mother and a father figure. And.... you can't act motherly as a man?
There's no such thing as perfect so what you're trying to argue is pretty pointless.It's one thing to be against conception, but it's another trying to argue for perfection. Anyone who strives for perfection (rather than self improvement) is delusional and will never be happy.
Relatively few studies have directly examined gay fathers, but those that exist find that gay men are similarly fit and able parents, as compared to heterosexual men. Available empirical data do not provide a basis for assuming gay men are unsuited for parenthood. If gay parents were inherently unfit, even small studies with convenience samples would readily detect it. This has not been the case. Being raised by a single father does not appear to inherently disadvantage children's psychological wellbeing more than being raised by a single mother. Homosexuality does not constitute a pathology or deficit, and there is no theoretical reason to expect gay fathers to cause harm to their children. Thus, although more research is needed, available data place the burden of empirical proof on those who argue that having a gay father is harmful.
no one's bad just because they're not perfect
A statement from the APA is as followsQuoteRelatively few studies have directly examined gay fathers, but those that exist find that gay men are similarly fit and able parents, as compared to heterosexual men. Available empirical data do not provide a basis for assuming gay men are unsuited for parenthood. If gay parents were inherently unfit, even small studies with convenience samples would readily detect it. This has not been the case. Being raised by a single father does not appear to inherently disadvantage children's psychological wellbeing more than being raised by a single mother. Homosexuality does not constitute a pathology or deficit, and there is no theoretical reason to expect gay fathers to cause harm to their children. Thus, although more research is needed, available data place the burden of empirical proof on those who argue that having a gay father is harmful.Further reading materialhttp://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/126/1/28.fullhttps://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/same-sex-parented-families-australiahttp://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15504280802177615Now kindly kill yourselves. All of you.
Quote from: Callous on July 04, 2016, 04:52:26 PMThe only way to justify childbirth is though perfection so, yes, it seems entirely reasonable of me to bring it up.not if it's an impossible hypothetical
The only way to justify childbirth is though perfection so, yes, it seems entirely reasonable of me to bring it up.
Labeling honest to god caring and loving parents that try to do everything they can possible for a child as "bad" does leave me hung up, yeah.
It's mistakes like this--and I'm just ONE example--that separate the good parents from the bad parents. Good parents don't exist because the mistakes that parents make, no matter how small, can lead to catastrophic results. Even if your child ended up happy and successful in adulthood, that doesn't make you a good parent. It makes you lucky.
Quote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:53:03 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:43:23 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:24:16 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.Uh, yeah. That system. That's kinda what started this quote chain, guy. It's fucked up and the state essentially works against clearing people out of it. I'll tell ya son, after seven years of trying to adopt domestically instead of just fostering differen kids every year, a lot of couples get fucking fed up and just pull a baby from China in two weeks. If a gay couple can help a kid get out of that, then let's give more fags some more kids. We're not taking an advantage away from anyone by doing that. We're giving them an advantage over what they had before.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:43:23 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:24:16 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.The orphanage system? Or what system? And how is that acting against you and how does a gay couple change that. Retard.
Quote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 01:24:16 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?I don't know about you, but Id rather be raised by a gay couple than spend my life in a stacked system that works against my wellbeing.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?So you wanna take advantages away from children?
Quote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:43:55 PMQuote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.So?
Quote from: Varg on July 04, 2016, 03:12:07 AMQuote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwiseThe best environment for a kid to be raised in is by a mom and dad.
Quote from: EarningAttorney on July 04, 2016, 12:48:53 AMHomosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.orphanages would say otherwise
Homosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.
Does the increase in Homosexual and other types of sexualities help the world?
