CONGRESS TRIES TO QUIETLY PASS DOMESTIC SPYING BILL- HELP US STOP IT

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Congress has quietly passed an Intelligence Authorization Bill that includes warrantless forfeiture of private communications to local law enforcement.

Representative Justin Amash unsuccessfully attempted a late bid to oppose the bill, which passed 325-100.

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GOP rep attempted late bid to kill spy bill
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/226752-gop-rep-attempted-late-bid-to-kill-spy-bill

One of the biggest thorns in the side of the country’s intelligence agencies attempted to mount an eleventh-hour bid to kill the spies’ funding bill on Wednesday.
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Amash's Facebook Post:
https://www.facebook.com/repjustinamash/posts/812569822115759

When I learned that the Intelligence Authorization Act for FY 2015 was being rushed to the floor for a vote—with little debate and only a voice vote expected (i.e., simply declared "passed" with almost nobody in the room)—I asked my legislative staff to quickly review the bill for unusual language. What they discovered is one of the most egregious sections of law I've encountered during my time as a representative: It grants the executive branch virtually unlimited access to the communications of every American.
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This is hugely important, contact your representative immediately. They probably don't know that this was sneaked in at the last moment.

To find your representative enter your zip code here.

http://www.opencongress.org/people/zipcodelookup

The bill has not gone to the president yet but a re-vote is still an uphill battle. Shout this from the rooftops.

The following is how the original vote went down. 345 yes to 59 no with 27 abstentions. We stopped sopa we can stop this too but you need to be fast and loud. Post it on face book tell your friends get the word out.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll271.xml


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For those curious, here's the exact text of Section 309 from Congress.gov:

Spoiler
SEC. 309. PROCEDURES FOR THE RETENTION OF INCIDENTALLY ACQUIRED
      COMMUNICATIONS.
    (a) Definitions.--In this section:
        (1) Covered communication.--The term ``covered communication''
    means any nonpublic telephone or electronic communication acquired
    without the consent of a person who is a party to the
    communication, including communications in electronic storage.
        (2) Head of an element of the intelligence community.--The term
    ``head of an element of the intelligence community'' means, as
    appropriate--
            (A) the head of an element of the intelligence community;
        or
            (B) the head of the department or agency containing such
        element.
        (3) United states person.--The term ``United States person''
    has the meaning given that term in section 101 of the Foreign
    Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1801).
    (b) Procedures for Covered Communications.--
        (1) Requirement to adopt.--Not later than 2 years after the
    date of the enactment of this Act each head of an element of the
    intelligence community shall adopt procedures approved by the
    Attorney General for such element that ensure compliance with the
    requirements of paragraph (3).
        (2) Coordination and approval.--The procedures required by
    paragraph (1) shall be--
            (A) prepared in coordination with the Director of National
        Intelligence; and
            (B) approved by the Attorney General prior to issuance.
        (3) Procedures.--
            (A) Application.--The procedures required by paragraph (1)
        shall apply to any intelligence collection activity not
        otherwise authorized by court order (including an order or
        certification issued by a court established under subsection
        (a) or (b) of section 103 of the Foreign Intelligence
        Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1803)), subpoena, or
        similar legal process that is reasonably anticipated to result
        in the acquisition of a covered communication to or from a
        United States person and shall permit the acquisition,
        retention, and dissemination of covered communications subject
        to the limitation in subparagraph (B).
            (B) Limitation on retention.--A covered communication shall
        not be retained in excess of 5 years, unless--
                (i) the communication has been affirmatively
            determined, in whole or in part, to constitute foreign
            intelligence or counterintelligence or is necessary to
            understand or assess foreign intelligence or
            counterintelligence;
                (ii) the communication is reasonably believed to
            constitute evidence of a crime and is retained by a law
            enforcement agency;
                (iii) the communication is enciphered or reasonably
            believed to have a secret meaning;
                (iv) all parties to the communication are reasonably
            believed to be non-United States persons;
                (v) retention is necessary to protect against an
            imminent threat to human life, in which case both the
            nature of the threat and the information to be retained
            shall be reported to the congressional intelligence
            committees not later than 30 days after the date such
            retention is extended under this clause;
                (vi) retention is necessary for technical assurance or
            compliance purposes, including a court order or discovery
            obligation, in which case access to information retained
            for technical assurance or compliance purposes shall be
            reported to the congressional intelligence committees on an
            annual basis; or
                (vii) retention for a period in excess of 5 years is
            approved by the head of the element of the intelligence
            community responsible for such retention, based on a
            determination that retention is necessary to protect the
            national security of the United States, in which case the
            head of such element shall provide to the congressional
            intelligence committees a written certification
            describing--

                    (I) the reasons extended retention is necessary to
                protect the national security of the United States;
                    (II) the duration for which the head of the element
                is authorizing retention;
                    (III) the particular information to be retained;
                and
                    (IV) the measures the element of the intelligence
                community is taking to protect the privacy interests of
                United States persons or persons located inside the
                United States.


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For those curious, here's the exact text of Section 309 from Congress.gov:

Spoiler
SEC. 309. PROCEDURES FOR THE RETENTION OF INCIDENTALLY ACQUIRED
      COMMUNICATIONS.
    (a) Definitions.--In this section:
        (1) Covered communication.--The term ``covered communication''
    means any nonpublic telephone or electronic communication acquired
    without the consent of a person who is a party to the
    communication, including communications in electronic storage.
        (2) Head of an element of the intelligence community.--The term
    ``head of an element of the intelligence community'' means, as
    appropriate--
            (A) the head of an element of the intelligence community;
        or
            (B) the head of the department or agency containing such
        element.
        (3) United states person.--The term ``United States person''
    has the meaning given that term in section 101 of the Foreign
    Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1801).
    (b) Procedures for Covered Communications.--
        (1) Requirement to adopt.--Not later than 2 years after the
    date of the enactment of this Act each head of an element of the
    intelligence community shall adopt procedures approved by the
    Attorney General for such element that ensure compliance with the
    requirements of paragraph (3).
        (2) Coordination and approval.--The procedures required by
    paragraph (1) shall be--
            (A) prepared in coordination with the Director of National
        Intelligence; and
            (B) approved by the Attorney General prior to issuance.
        (3) Procedures.--
            (A) Application.--The procedures required by paragraph (1)
        shall apply to any intelligence collection activity not
        otherwise authorized by court order (including an order or
        certification issued by a court established under subsection
        (a) or (b) of section 103 of the Foreign Intelligence
        Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1803)), subpoena, or
        similar legal process that is reasonably anticipated to result
        in the acquisition of a covered communication to or from a
        United States person and shall permit the acquisition,
        retention, and dissemination of covered communications subject
        to the limitation in subparagraph (B).
            (B) Limitation on retention.--A covered communication shall
        not be retained in excess of 5 years, unless--
                (i) the communication has been affirmatively
            determined, in whole or in part, to constitute foreign
            intelligence or counterintelligence or is necessary to
            understand or assess foreign intelligence or
            counterintelligence;
                (ii) the communication is reasonably believed to
            constitute evidence of a crime and is retained by a law
            enforcement agency;
                (iii) the communication is enciphered or reasonably
            believed to have a secret meaning;
                (iv) all parties to the communication are reasonably
            believed to be non-United States persons;
                (v) retention is necessary to protect against an
            imminent threat to human life, in which case both the
            nature of the threat and the information to be retained
            shall be reported to the congressional intelligence
            committees not later than 30 days after the date such
            retention is extended under this clause;
                (vi) retention is necessary for technical assurance or
            compliance purposes, including a court order or discovery
            obligation, in which case access to information retained
            for technical assurance or compliance purposes shall be
            reported to the congressional intelligence committees on an
            annual basis; or
                (vii) retention for a period in excess of 5 years is
            approved by the head of the element of the intelligence
            community responsible for such retention, based on a
            determination that retention is necessary to protect the
            national security of the United States, in which case the
            head of such element shall provide to the congressional
            intelligence committees a written certification
            describing--

                    (I) the reasons extended retention is necessary to
                protect the national security of the United States;
                    (II) the duration for which the head of the element
                is authorizing retention;
                    (III) the particular information to be retained;
                and
                    (IV) the measures the element of the intelligence
                community is taking to protect the privacy interests of
                United States persons or persons located inside the
                United States.
fucking shitbags tried to sneak this through


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If that were true, we wouldn't be having this debate in the first place. Edward Snowden would like to have a word with you.

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Last Edit: December 29, 2014, 01:46:26 PM by Kupo


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First of all^

Second of all the government doesn't think you're important enough to spend 30 minutes looking through your countless pages of search history. There's no logical reason to feel violated.
This is a violation of the constitutional rights of my fellow Americans.

Being someone who is a vocal supporter of certain political movements, as well as gun ownership, I'm fairly likely to end up on some watchlist myself.


 
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First of all^

Second of all the government doesn't think you're important enough to spend 30 minutes looking through your countless pages of search history. There's no logical reason to feel violated.
I've told you many times before that the government has collected porn history as "back-up" to discredit radicals, and I've mentioned a few times before about how Scotland Yard kept files on journalists, as well as their families' medical records.

This isn't about the government watching us, it's about stopping any sort of erosion which lends itself to a generally undesirable society.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
As someone who's probably been on an NSA watch list for years now, I just gotta say that there's nothing to worry about if the feds haven't knocked on my door yet.


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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
As someone who's probably been on an NSA watch list for years now, I just gotta say that there's nothing to worry about if the feds haven't knocked on my door yet.
How do you know if you're on a watch list? You get a letter in the mail or something?
Look into leaks for the hobbies/professions/habbits of those under mass watches and see if you win the lottery.


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If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
So they're keeping an eye on the radicals? I certainly don't believe that we should cut out free speech like the way your country has been doing things, but I don't see anything beyond 'logic' to focus on radicals seeing as they're (probably) more likely to start riots, uprisings, terrorist actions.
Warrantless and unregulated collection of private data isn't necessary to keep an eye on radicals. . .


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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
That's just the thing. There are so many BS laws, I bet every single one of you are in violation of at least one of those laws and now they'll know easily and then drag your ass out of your home.