College Feels Pointless

 
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I am at the second year of my studies, but it feels wholly pointless. There are nice things, the place's great, the people are nice, and the professors quite good and supportive to strive to do more work...

But it's also filled with moronic idiots that I'd rather wipe my hands with them before even dealing with them, the students from the US tend to be mostly stereotypical and always within in their social circles meanwhile they spout some nonsense about getting out of your comfortable area when they have a huge student loan to pay their "vacation" to a semester in a US college in Greece.

The Greek students... There are two kinds of them; those who do study, and the huge number of people who are there, drinking coffee in the cafeteria and wasting their parent's money at a private institution. Without having some kind of realistic ambition, interest in a craft or maybe talent in some cases. (The lot of them also get quite a huge number of financial aid, too)

I'll sound like a bitch, but I do have talent, I do have interest in what I do and I love it, but college is just making me more arrogant as the assignments feel like leg work. They are not challenging, and it feels idiotic to do "group assignments" just to deal with the fact that the other person will fuck up things and whatever happens I will have to gather the pieces to put things back together. The programming course was in Java, it was nice, but there was no challenge there either.

I want challenge, I want the brutal kind of challenge with competition, and to actually feel the A slapped onto my courses worth my time and effort. Whenever I am slapped with a grade, it only leaves a bad taste, a sense of disappointment and lack of achievement.

What's the point? It's not challenging, it feels like legwork, and it lacks any kind of fascination as the challenge didn't get any good after my first year. Whenever I talk about video game development I am met with lack of expertise, interest and misunderstanding.
Last Edit: October 31, 2014, 08:51:38 AM by Isara


 
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Well, the further you go along, the more challenging things should get no? Stick it out in the splashy pool for a while and wait until they throw you in with the sharks in the ocean. It'll have to happen eventually.

Or, accelerate things.

Learn on your own. Challenge yourself.


 
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Yeah... That's the kind of thing that I do hear often. Sometimes people complain about the basic GER courses being challenging, but most of them are just about your classic routine; go in class, listen, take notes, review notes, study a little, and pass the course.

That routine being completed about ten times for different courses is boring. There's no challenge to that, because since you figure out the system, it's just a bunch of nonsense. When I will go out there, maybe in a boardroom, maybe in a business meeting, or critical writing, nobody will talk to me in keywords, and the concepts are most of the time obvious.

Where's the challenge in a more "difficult" course? 25-50% more hours dropped into studying? That's not challenge, that's just more deadweight to carry on until the next assignment, midterm or final.

Well, the further you go along, the more challenging things should get no? Stick it out in the splashy pool for a while and wait until they throw you in with the sharks in the ocean. It'll have to happen eventually.
Last Edit: October 31, 2014, 08:56:58 AM by Isara


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Maybe it's not challenging because you're too damn good at it!

I also think this should belong in Serious


 
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I already do that, and I started doing it years ago. When we tackle SQL and we talk about functions in MySQL and Oracle SQL it's all stuff I did back in 2008, it just comes back to me. Yeah, maybe there's some new stuff and some details, but those are really specific things that you can find out by yourself even in a work environment from someone else, or from your own experience.

The biggest challenge I am facing currently is writing a 2D engine from scratch. Which later I will attempt to transform into a full blown 3D engine. However, if I start talking about that with another student or professor then there won't be any fruitful conversation. Hasn't occurred to me yet, at least.

Or, accelerate things.

Learn on your own. Challenge yourself.


Moved it to Serious.

Maybe it's not challenging because you're too damn good at it!

I also think this should belong in Serious


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Not challenging? Shit, College was (and gradschool is) hard as fuck for me.

Just be lucky you don't have to try and you still get good grades while some of us study our asses off and still end up with C's.


 
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Do you study your ass during the semester, or the last few weeks of it?

Just be lucky you don't have to try and you still get good grades while some of us study our asses off and still end up with C's.


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Usually the few days leading up to an exam/final.

I mean most people can't study all year round.


 
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Yeah, you don't "study your ass" when you work the last days before an exam or final. Also, you can study at some points, but means taking time off other things. For someone like me who doesn't care about a social life altogether, I do find myself with plenty of time.

Usually the few days leading up to an exam/final.

I mean most people can't study all year round.


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Things like Playing Baseball and joining a frat were a higher priority than studying. I wish I did have the time to study, just couldn't make the time.

And now in grad school I would love to study 24/7. I mean right now I think I have something like a 40 in one of my classes. But work and parenting prevent me from studying, it blows.

I'm just saying, you should feel lucky you can study minimally and still do great. I wish I had those brains.


 
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Study minimally? Please, don't get it wrong. I study the whole semester minimally. That's the big difference. You set your own priorities, and if your priority is to just have a merry time with your parent's money then it's your call, the reason my parents are shelling money for me is so I can actually get a degree, and maybe anything good that comes with it.

I can't actually study more than an hour or two consecutively, so I do that during the weekends, or days without classes, and due to taking notes and following up to anything that might be unclear to me then I can be successful in my classes, because when you crack how school works then you just do the same thing repetitively.

Things like Playing Baseball and joining a frat were a higher priority than studying. I wish I did have the time to study, just couldn't make the time.

And now in grad school I would love to study 24/7. I mean right now I think I have something like a 40 in one of my classes. But work and parenting prevent me from studying, it blows.

I'm just saying, you should feel lucky you can study minimally and still do great. I wish I had those brains.
Last Edit: October 31, 2014, 09:32:38 AM by Isara


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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
. They are not challenging, and it feels idiotic to do "group assignments" just to deal with the fact that the other person will fuck up things and whatever happens I will have to gather the pieces to put things back together.
When I was in High School and had these group projects.. I told the group.. Don't do anything! I'll do it all and I won't fuck up your grade. They listened and we'd usually walk away with a mid 90 at worst. I have trust issues when it comes to relying on others.
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That's the card I am ready to play any time it's necessary.

When I was in High School and had these group projects.. I told the group.. Don't do anything! I'll do it all and I won't fuck up your grade. They listened and we'd usually walk away with a mid 90 at worst.


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I agree with you, there are many spoiled kids.

But you're assuming that many people are going with their parents money. The majority of people pay for college themselves or take out loans that they will be paying off down the line.


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That's why I'm going to a cheap state school. Same piece of paper I could get at UGA or Mercer for about $10,000 instead of $100,000.


 
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If they are paying it for themselves and taking the huge risk that a debt entails then how does that relate to not putting proper effort in one's studies? It's actually more direct and heavy weight than having parents pay for your studies.

But you're assuming that many people are going with their parents money. The majority of people pay for college themselves or take out loans that they will be paying off down the line.

Depends, all schools are different, but it also depends on your needs, and what is best offered for your capabilities and situation.

That's why I'm going to a cheap state school. Same piece of paper I could get at UGA or Mercer for about $10,000 instead of $100,000.


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Lucky for me, I ended up not caring what people say and became a history major. I could do this at just about any accredited school in the nation.


 
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That's an interesting choice because of the classes involved, and employment-wise it can lead you to a few interesting places, too.

Lucky for me, I ended up not caring what people say and became a history major. I could do this at just about any accredited school in the nation.


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That's an interesting choice because of the classes involved, and employment-wise it can lead you to a few interesting places, too.

Lucky for me, I ended up not caring what people say and became a history major. I could do this at just about any accredited school in the nation.
It gives me a pretty diverse pool of classes to choose from. I want to get a media specialist/library science master's after finishing this bachelor's and become a librarian. I just want to live a simple, inoffensive, private existence keeping books.


 
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Obligatory WH40k reference.

Spoiler

become a librarian.


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The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
school always did feel pointless to me. you work just to work for the rest of your life


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Ace your undergrad, get your master's early, outperform your peers, get a better and more fulfilling job while they're writing meaningless code for some minor project. Get your doctorate, start teaching university and challenge students the way you wanted to be, continue to do projects in your free time for passion. Retire happy at 60.



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That's an interesting choice because of the classes involved, and employment-wise it can lead you to a few interesting places, too.

Lucky for me, I ended up not caring what people say and became a history major. I could do this at just about any accredited school in the nation.
It gives me a pretty diverse pool of classes to choose from. I want to get a media specialist/library science master's after finishing this bachelor's and become a librarian. I just want to live a simple, inoffensive, private existence keeping books.
Good luck. I have been having trouble for half a year finding a job with the same degree but since you're going to specialize you'll definitely have a better chance.


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well, you have talent AND ambition, so of course it's going to feel pointless and easy. though i do agree with group work being a bit pointless, it's so emphasized despite the fact that being able to work independently is just as important..

i go to a community college and i don't really see too many slackers, or at least not that i've noticed. most of the people i have class with are there for their transfer degrees because they either did poorly in high school, haven't figured out what they want to and/or want to save on college costs. not to mention my college being a hotspot for transfer nurses

anyways, the point is to master what you want to do. there's no point in having a degree if you can't do the jobs you're hired for because you relied too much on others to get said degree. if you just keep being the student you are then you'll see how much farther you've gone than your peers, especially if you're excelling at a Master's degree


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How do you mean?

That kind of thing is where it becomes a waste of money. Everything you described. It's over-saturated.


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That makes sense...

How dare you quote like that! Haha, what I mean is too many people are in college without a true understanding of what they want to do, and there's a lot of competition so now having a degree doesn't mean as much. It also doesn't help that it's expensive as hell.


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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
You don't find it challenging because you may be excelling your studies. As for the students well a lot of people only go to university for the experience they don't really care much for learning.