Chelsea Manning denied treatment

Magos Domina | Heroic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Kiyohime
IP: Logged

6,711 posts
01001001 01101101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01110010 01101111 01110111 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01110000 01101001 01100100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101


Juuzou | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Lady Noelle
IP: Logged

10,912 posts
 
This user has been blacklisted from posting on the forums. Until the blacklist is lifted, all posts made by this user have been hidden and require a Sep7agon® SecondClass Premium Membership to view.


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

37,630 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I don't think it's so much being "denied" as it is that some douchebag light colonel who's tired of not yet being a fullbird despite how lazy he is is just sitting on the paperwork.
Can't have anything happen in the military bureaucracy if some cunt sits on your paper.


Dave | Respected Posting Spree
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: lonepaul2441
IP: Logged

168 posts
 
Another veteran chewed up and spit out by the military industrial complex the minute they stopped being useful.

Sad, but not a surprise when you look at how soldiers have been treated throughout history.


Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
I can't say I'm surprised, unfortunately.


 
More Than Mortal
| d-d-d-DANK ✡ 🔥🔥🔥 🌈ðŸ‘
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: MetaCognition
ID: Meta Cognition
IP: Logged

15,060 posts
This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I don't see a reason that the military should pay for this in the first place.

Offer assistance with it? Maybe.

I don't really know enough about it to comment, though.


 
 
Mr. Psychologist
| Imperial Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Mr Psychologist
IP: Logged

17,215 posts
<.<
Sadly it's unsurprising.

And the military is just delaying the inevitable on this one.


Juuzou | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Lady Noelle
IP: Logged

10,912 posts
 
This user has been blacklisted from posting on the forums. Until the blacklist is lifted, all posts made by this user have been hidden and require a Sep7agon® SecondClass Premium Membership to view.


Magos Domina | Heroic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Kiyohime
IP: Logged

6,711 posts
01001001 01101101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01110010 01101111 01110111 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01110000 01101001 01100100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101
Another veteran chewed up and spit out by the military industrial complex the minute they stopped being useful.

Sad, but not a surprise when you look at how soldiers have been treated throughout history.

I don't give two fucks how veterans are treated, however I do give a fuck about trans rights. It's their right to be able to receive the treatment they need. The fact that sending her to prison wasn't enough, they're withholding the treatment that she needs. Makes my blood boil.


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

37,630 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
People like Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, and Julian Assange are heroes. They risk everything to ensure that information is not withheld from other people. The US government thinks it can do whatever it wants and keep its citizens in the dark, and then they try to act like these people did something wrong and try to label them as traitors, it is sick.
Snowden, yes. Manning and Assange, no.


Dave | Respected Posting Spree
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: lonepaul2441
IP: Logged

168 posts
 

I don't give two fucks how veterans are treated, however I do give a fuck about trans rights. It's their right to be able to receive the treatment they need. The fact that sending her to prison wasn't enough, they're withholding the treatment that she needs. Makes my blood boil.
Well Manning is a veteran, so clearly you do care how at least one of them is treated.

What I'm saying is, this is just the latest case in a long line of society's indifference towards the soldiers it claims to venerate. Veterans with PTSD have been ignored for years, why should veterans with gender dysphoria be treated any different?


Magos Domina | Heroic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Kiyohime
IP: Logged

6,711 posts
01001001 01101101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01110010 01101111 01110111 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01110000 01101001 01100100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101
Well Manning is a veteran, so clearly you do care how at least one of them is treated.

What I'm saying is, this is just the latest case in a long line of society's indifference towards the soldiers it claims to venerate. Veterans with PTSD have been ignored for years, why should veterans with gender dysphoria be treated any different?
I care that she gets the treatment for her GD, I don't give two fucks what happens after she gets that. I don't like her, she's a veteran, but I have a bias respect for trans people.

Like I said maybe because I'm biased about the issue, if she wasn't trans I'd give her a pat on the back for leaking files and not lose a second of sleep over what happened to her after.

I doubt you'd understand.
Last Edit: August 22, 2014, 05:57:41 PM by Kiyohime


Dave | Respected Posting Spree
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: lonepaul2441
IP: Logged

168 posts
 
Not seeing why you're so biased against veterans, but fair enough.


Magos Domina | Heroic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Kiyohime
IP: Logged

6,711 posts
01001001 01101101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01110010 01101111 01110111 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01110000 01101001 01100100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101
Not seeing why you're so biased against veterans, but fair enough.
Because military service is nothing to be proud of. If you want to discuss my hatred for the military then make a separate thread or PM me, this threads about the issue of Chelsea not getting treatment, lets stick to that.


Dave | Respected Posting Spree
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: lonepaul2441
IP: Logged

168 posts
 
Oh, I agree with you there. I'm just saying that veterans don't necessarily deserve to shoulder the brunt of the blame.

War is, for the most part, manufactured by the ruling class to protect their property (edit: or to acquire more property). Soldiers usually come from the working class, and are either forced or manipulated into service.
Last Edit: August 22, 2014, 06:18:14 PM by Dave


 
More Than Mortal
| d-d-d-DANK ✡ 🔥🔥🔥 🌈ðŸ‘
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: MetaCognition
ID: Meta Cognition
IP: Logged

15,060 posts
This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Oh, I agree with you there. I'm just saying that veterans don't necessarily deserve to shoulder the brunt of the blame.

War is, for the most part, manufactured by the ruling class to protect their property. Soldiers usually come from the working class, and are either forced or manipulated into service.
Huh, I actually agree with you.


Dave | Respected Posting Spree
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: lonepaul2441
IP: Logged

168 posts
 
Huh, I actually agree with you.
You should, historical evidence supports this argument.

Forced military service dates all the way back to the middle ages, possibly even earlier.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
Good. Its a HE.


Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
Good. Its a HE.
This is in Serious, PSU. No place for comments like this.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
Because military service is nothing to be proud of.

Then I guess you have NOTHING to be proud of in your sad life.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
This is in Serious, PSU. No place for comments like this.

Comments like what?

Theres no reason why they should allow HIM to get this surgery.


Magos Domina | Heroic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Kiyohime
IP: Logged

6,711 posts
01001001 01101101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01110010 01101111 01110111 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01110000 01101001 01100100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101
Then I guess you have NOTHING to be proud of in your sad life.
Because the military = everything doesn't it?

Id advise you to re-read the rules, no starting fights in here.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
Because the military = everything doesn't it?

Id advise you to re-read the rules, no starting fights in here.

You're the only one here starting fights when you make comments like that.

No military doesn't equal everything. But service is DAMN sure something to be proud of.


Dave | Respected Posting Spree
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: lonepaul2441
IP: Logged

168 posts
 
>taking PSU seriously

you guys should know better by now


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
It'll be great if you actually manage to get yourself banned over this, PSU.

Why? I'd just make another account? Who cares.

Who are you anyway?


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
>taking PSU seriously

you guys should know better by now

I'm 100% serious.

Any questions?


Magos Domina | Heroic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Kiyohime
IP: Logged

6,711 posts
01001001 01101101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01110010 01101111 01110111 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01110000 01101001 01100100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101
You're the only one here starting fights when you make comments like that.

No military doesn't equal everything. But service is DAMN sure something to be proud of.
In your opinion, my opinion differs. And where we differ is that I'm not attacking you for yours. Id advise you to show the same courtesy to your fellow forum goers.


Dave | Respected Posting Spree
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: lonepaul2441
IP: Logged

168 posts
 
I'm 100% serious.

Any questions?
and you're 100% retarded

but please, give kiyo an excuse to ban you, it would probably be the best thing that's happened to this forum so far :)


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
In your opinion, my opinion differs. And where we differ is that I'm not attacking you for yours. Id advise you to show the same courtesy to your fellow forum goers.

And I'd advise you to not make baiting comments like the one you made.

Thought you would know better, being a mod and all.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
It's not my problem that you aren't smart enough to figure it out.

Sorry, I don't dedicate my life to figuring out alts on forums.