France bans unlimited free soda refills

velox · January 27, 2017, 03:05:40 PM

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38767941

I personally think this is a stupid idea. Why should the public at large be punished because some people can't control their diet?

gats · January 27, 2017, 03:08:57 PM

So they ban unlimited refills but what's stopping restaurants from offering up 10 refills? 5?

velox · January 27, 2017, 03:12:21 PM

Quote from: gats on January 27, 2017, 03:08:57 PM

So they ban unlimited refills but what's stopping restaurants from offering up 10 refills? 5?

I haven't gone over the source (which is in French), but I wouldn't be surprised if the law is defined as more than a set number of refills rather than just "unlimited".

DAS B00T x2 · January 27, 2017, 04:14:03 PM

Unacceptable micromanagement of peoples lives from typical top down eurofascist nations, what else is new?

Super Irish · January 27, 2017, 06:05:12 PM

Would've been better if they made unlimited fruit juice refills and limited the soda/pop to 5.

I mean c'mon, who drinks more than 2 massive cups of the stuff even if it was infinite?

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Elai · January 27, 2017, 07:45:02 PM

They should be giving us unlimited refills considering how watered down those drinks are.

MyNameIsCharlie · January 27, 2017, 08:39:43 PM

Wait, places in France offered refills? WTF!?! I never got a free refill there. I drank wine and beer because they were cheapest. Fucking water didn't get refills.

Luciana · January 27, 2017, 08:44:15 PM

Seems a bit pointless tbh. The most I'd do is provide accurate info on how bad soda is for you, but they should let restaurants dictate themselves if they let that.

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Korra · January 27, 2017, 08:57:56 PM

Thanks Obama

Gatortag · January 27, 2017, 09:18:32 PM

Now the government can tell me how much I'm allowed to drink? Fuck off.

DAS B00T x2 · January 27, 2017, 10:28:01 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on January 27, 2017, 08:39:43 PM

Wait, places in France offered refills? WTF!?! I never got a free refill there. I drank wine and beer because they were cheapest. Fucking water didn't get refills.

Fuck son, that'd be cool here is wine and beer were cheaper than soda.
But nah, two bucks a domestic draft and eight bucks a glass for the original grape juice. I mean, non-wine grape drink wasn't a thing until the middle-1800's.

January 28, 2017, 02:10:19 AM

Ridiculous. People have the right to consume whatever the fuck they want. It's THEIR fucking body.

Flee · January 28, 2017, 03:44:45 AM

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January 28, 2017, 03:59:23 AM

Quote from: Flee on January 28, 2017, 03:44:45 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 02:10:19 AM
Ridiculous. People have the right to consume whatever the fuck they want. It's THEIR fucking body.
Quote from: Gatortag on January 27, 2017, 09:18:32 PM
Now the government can tell me how much I'm allowed to drink? Fuck off.
The government is telling no one how much they can or cannot drink. The law applies to the providers (restaurants, bars) only. Nothing is stopping anyone from buying as many drinks as they want. Just because restaurants just can't offer cups with unlimited soda refills anymore doesn't mean you can't buy 3 different cups and chug as much soda as you want.

At worst, it's an infringement of human rights.

At best, it's as you described - a money grab. There's absolutely no reason to make someone buy 3 drinks instead of 1, or a large drink instead of a small one. This whole law is so backwards and retarded.

Stop worrying about the obesity "crisis". Let people be as fat as they want to be, and do nothing to hinder them. Having good health is not the government business, it's the individual's choice.

Desty · January 28, 2017, 03:59:45 AM

Quote from: Flee on January 28, 2017, 03:44:45 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 02:10:19 AM
Ridiculous. People have the right to consume whatever the fuck they want. It's THEIR fucking body.
Quote from: Gatortag on January 27, 2017, 09:18:32 PM
Now the government can tell me how much I'm allowed to drink? Fuck off.
The government is telling no one how much they can or cannot drink. The law applies to the providers (restaurants, bars) only. Nothing is stopping anyone from buying as many drinks as they want. Just because restaurants just can't offer cups with unlimited soda refills anymore doesn't mean you can't buy 3 different cups and chug as much soda as you want.

Leave it to whiners to whine about everything

Desty · January 28, 2017, 04:02:26 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 03:59:23 AM

Quote from: Flee on January 28, 2017, 03:44:45 AM
Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 02:10:19 AM
Ridiculous. People have the right to consume whatever the fuck they want. It's THEIR fucking body.
Quote from: Gatortag on January 27, 2017, 09:18:32 PM
Now the government can tell me how much I'm allowed to drink? Fuck off.
The government is telling no one how much they can or cannot drink. The law applies to the providers (restaurants, bars) only. Nothing is stopping anyone from buying as many drinks as they want. Just because restaurants just can't offer cups with unlimited soda refills anymore doesn't mean you can't buy 3 different cups and chug as much soda as you want.
At worst, it's an infringement of human rights.

At best, it's as you described - a money grab. There's absolutely no reason to make someone buy 3 drinks instead of 1, or a large drink instead of a small one. This whole law is so backwards and retarded.

Stop worrying about the obesity "crisis". Let people be as fat as they want to be, and do nothing to hinder them. Having good health is not the government business, it's the individual's choice.

The job of a society isn't to accommodate its citizens' needs, it's to produce the best versions of their citizens. Liberalism fails because it's just as good as anarchy.

January 28, 2017, 04:06:19 AM

Quote from: Desty on January 28, 2017, 04:02:26 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 03:59:23 AM
Quote from: Flee on January 28, 2017, 03:44:45 AM
Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 02:10:19 AM
Ridiculous. People have the right to consume whatever the fuck they want. It's THEIR fucking body.
Quote from: Gatortag on January 27, 2017, 09:18:32 PM
Now the government can tell me how much I'm allowed to drink? Fuck off.
The government is telling no one how much they can or cannot drink. The law applies to the providers (restaurants, bars) only. Nothing is stopping anyone from buying as many drinks as they want. Just because restaurants just can't offer cups with unlimited soda refills anymore doesn't mean you can't buy 3 different cups and chug as much soda as you want.
At worst, it's an infringement of human rights.

At best, it's as you described - a money grab. There's absolutely no reason to make someone buy 3 drinks instead of 1, or a large drink instead of a small one. This whole law is so backwards and retarded.

Stop worrying about the obesity "crisis". Let people be as fat as they want to be, and do nothing to hinder them. Having good health is not the government business, it's the individual's choice.
The job of a society isn't to accommodate its citizens' needs, it's to produce the best versions of their citizens. Liberalism fails because it's just as good as anarchy.

Wrong. The fact that life is imposed on the individual will always mean that the individual's private choices for themselves trump the state of the society.

If we were somehow given a choice of whether or not to be born, then living people would have an obligation to sacrifice autonomy for the good of the system they willingly entered. Since that's obviously impossible, though, that's not how it works.

Mattie G Indahouse · January 28, 2017, 04:09:40 AM

Quote from: Velox on January 27, 2017, 03:05:40 PM

soda

*pop

Desty · January 28, 2017, 04:18:53 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 04:06:19 AM

Quote from: Desty on January 28, 2017, 04:02:26 AM
Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 03:59:23 AM
Quote from: Flee on January 28, 2017, 03:44:45 AM
Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 02:10:19 AM
Ridiculous. People have the right to consume whatever the fuck they want. It's THEIR fucking body.
Quote from: Gatortag on January 27, 2017, 09:18:32 PM
Now the government can tell me how much I'm allowed to drink? Fuck off.
The government is telling no one how much they can or cannot drink. The law applies to the providers (restaurants, bars) only. Nothing is stopping anyone from buying as many drinks as they want. Just because restaurants just can't offer cups with unlimited soda refills anymore doesn't mean you can't buy 3 different cups and chug as much soda as you want.
At worst, it's an infringement of human rights.

At best, it's as you described - a money grab. There's absolutely no reason to make someone buy 3 drinks instead of 1, or a large drink instead of a small one. This whole law is so backwards and retarded.

Stop worrying about the obesity "crisis". Let people be as fat as they want to be, and do nothing to hinder them. Having good health is not the government business, it's the individual's choice.
The job of a society isn't to accommodate its citizens' needs, it's to produce the best versions of their citizens. Liberalism fails because it's just as good as anarchy.
Wrong. The fact that life is imposed on the individual will always mean that the individual's private choices for themselves trump the state of the society.

If we were somehow given a choice of whether or not to be born, then living people would have an obligation to sacrifice autonomy for the good of the system they willingly entered. Since that's obviously impossible, though, that's not how it works.

The individual's own choices are supposed to trump society's, but that doesn't change the task of society one bit. Only the ones who have the mental strength to make their own choices with certainty have the privilege of truly knowing what they want, and only those who are powerful enough have the privilege to make their own choices a reality when society deems it illegal and wrong.

January 28, 2017, 04:24:00 AM

Quote from: Desty on January 28, 2017, 04:18:53 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 04:06:19 AM
Quote from: Desty on January 28, 2017, 04:02:26 AM
Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 03:59:23 AM
Quote from: Flee on January 28, 2017, 03:44:45 AM
Quote from: SecondClass on January 28, 2017, 02:10:19 AM
Ridiculous. People have the right to consume whatever the fuck they want. It's THEIR fucking body.
Quote from: Gatortag on January 27, 2017, 09:18:32 PM
Now the government can tell me how much I'm allowed to drink? Fuck off.
The government is telling no one how much they can or cannot drink. The law applies to the providers (restaurants, bars) only. Nothing is stopping anyone from buying as many drinks as they want. Just because restaurants just can't offer cups with unlimited soda refills anymore doesn't mean you can't buy 3 different cups and chug as much soda as you want.
At worst, it's an infringement of human rights.

At best, it's as you described - a money grab. There's absolutely no reason to make someone buy 3 drinks instead of 1, or a large drink instead of a small one. This whole law is so backwards and retarded.

Stop worrying about the obesity "crisis". Let people be as fat as they want to be, and do nothing to hinder them. Having good health is not the government business, it's the individual's choice.
The job of a society isn't to accommodate its citizens' needs, it's to produce the best versions of their citizens. Liberalism fails because it's just as good as anarchy.
Wrong. The fact that life is imposed on the individual will always mean that the individual's private choices for themselves trump the state of the society.

If we were somehow given a choice of whether or not to be born, then living people would have an obligation to sacrifice autonomy for the good of the system they willingly entered. Since that's obviously impossible, though, that's not how it works.
The individual's own choices are supposed to trump society's, but that doesn't change the task of society one bit. Only the ones who have the mental strength to make their own choices with certainty have the privilege of truly knowing what they want, and only those who are powerful enough have the privilege to make their own choices a reality when society deems it illegal and wrong.

The weakest, most pathetic person in the world should still be able to make their own choices and be free. Anything below that, and society isn't complete. That goal is THE goal, and what everyone should be striving for.

And it's possible. When we wake up and see that strength and status are the past, and humility and acceptance are the future, it will become so.

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velox · January 28, 2017, 07:52:59 AM

Quote from: Nuka on January 28, 2017, 06:13:20 AM

I'd love to see an explanation as to why free refills are somehow a human right.

They aren't, but they shouldn't be a crime either.

MyNameIsCharlie · January 28, 2017, 09:05:07 AM

Live the assumption being made here. Did it get put to a vote or did the French government just up and do it? The French take their food pretty seriously.

Mattie G Indahouse · January 28, 2017, 02:25:52 PM

France has socialized medicine so it does make sense for their Government to be taking actions on obesity. True this isn't going to do anything but it's still a good idea for them to combat bad health is some form of ways.