We should balkanize the iberian peninsula. Fuck, we should balkanize all of Europe.And America.
I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
Quote from: Luciana on October 29, 2017, 12:49:25 AMI feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.who knows this could end with them getting what they want
Quote from: Luciana on October 29, 2017, 12:49:25 AMI feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.
Quote from: Genghis Khan on October 29, 2017, 05:06:36 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 29, 2017, 12:49:25 AMI feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.
Quote from: Braixen on October 30, 2017, 08:30:54 PMQuote from: Genghis Khan on October 29, 2017, 05:06:36 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 29, 2017, 12:49:25 AMI feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.If you could have 25% more of your own money, wouldn't you secede?
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on November 12, 2017, 04:22:53 AMQuote from: Braixen on October 30, 2017, 08:30:54 PMQuote from: Genghis Khan on October 29, 2017, 05:06:36 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 29, 2017, 12:49:25 AMI feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.If you could have 25% more of your own money, wouldn't you secede?Doesn't mean much when most of their trade is to Spain and the EU, which has already been outlined to them that cessation will also take them out of the EU and all those lovely money-making trade deals.They'd have to renegotiate EU membership and trade as well as build back bridges to Spain before they'd see any of that "freed up" 25%.
Quote from: βck on November 12, 2017, 01:03:03 PMQuote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on November 12, 2017, 04:22:53 AMQuote from: Braixen on October 30, 2017, 08:30:54 PMQuote from: Genghis Khan on October 29, 2017, 05:06:36 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 29, 2017, 12:49:25 AMI feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.If you could have 25% more of your own money, wouldn't you secede?Doesn't mean much when most of their trade is to Spain and the EU, which has already been outlined to them that cessation will also take them out of the EU and all those lovely money-making trade deals.They'd have to renegotiate EU membership and trade as well as build back bridges to Spain before they'd see any of that "freed up" 25%.Not to mention that most European countries would not have officially recognised Catalonia as a sovereign nation.Not giving Spain a free pass with how they've handled the situation but the Catalonian government had to have expected some sort of backlash to this. You don't autistically screech your way to independence and expect your neighbouring allies to just buck up and accept it.
Quote from: Mordo on November 12, 2017, 01:08:00 PMQuote from: βck on November 12, 2017, 01:03:03 PMQuote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on November 12, 2017, 04:22:53 AMQuote from: Braixen on October 30, 2017, 08:30:54 PMQuote from: Genghis Khan on October 29, 2017, 05:06:36 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 29, 2017, 12:49:25 AMI feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.If you could have 25% more of your own money, wouldn't you secede?Doesn't mean much when most of their trade is to Spain and the EU, which has already been outlined to them that cessation will also take them out of the EU and all those lovely money-making trade deals.They'd have to renegotiate EU membership and trade as well as build back bridges to Spain before they'd see any of that "freed up" 25%.Not to mention that most European countries would not have officially recognised Catalonia as a sovereign nation.Not giving Spain a free pass with how they've handled the situation but the Catalonian government had to have expected some sort of backlash to this. You don't autistically screech your way to independence and expect your neighbouring allies to just buck up and accept it.Well I mean...Britain's trying now after the indyref trial run a year earlier .
Britain's trying now after the indyref trial run a year earlier.
Catalonia declares independence
