Which do you trust more, the bureaucracy/civil service or the legislature?

More Than Mortal · November 17, 2014, 03:08:17 PM

T4R.

DAS B00T x2 · November 17, 2014, 03:09:12 PM

I don't understand the question.

Flee · November 17, 2014, 03:45:15 PM

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More Than Mortal · November 17, 2014, 03:46:51 PM

Quote from: Flee on November 17, 2014, 03:45:15 PM

Option C, the judiciary?

Ooh, fucken ell, didn't think of that one.

Commonlaw4lyfe

Dustin · November 17, 2014, 03:48:21 PM

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More Than Mortal · November 17, 2014, 03:48:49 PM

Quote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 17, 2014, 03:48:21 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 17, 2014, 03:46:51 PM
Quote from: Flee on November 17, 2014, 03:45:15 PM
Option C, the judiciary?
Ooh, fucken ell, didn't think of that one.

Commonlaw4lyfe
So essentially the executive branch, legislative branch, or the judicial?

Civil service =/= executive.

Dustin · November 17, 2014, 03:49:35 PM

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More Than Mortal · November 17, 2014, 03:53:57 PM

Quote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 17, 2014, 03:49:35 PM

I don't know what you're talking about then.

It's similar. The bureaucracy is accountable to the executive (mostly), but it isn't the same. It's the administrative body that deals with the technical implementation of policy. It's meritocratic and technocratic, instead of elected and representative.

Lemy the Lizerd · November 17, 2014, 04:00:24 PM

I'll always be more inclined to trust civil service.

Flee · November 17, 2014, 04:28:23 PM

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More Than Mortal · November 17, 2014, 04:29:11 PM

Quote from: Flee on November 17, 2014, 04:28:23 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 17, 2014, 03:46:51 PM
Quote from: Flee on November 17, 2014, 03:45:15 PM
Option C, the judiciary?
Ooh, fucken ell, didn't think of that one.

Commonlaw4lyfe
A function judiciary branch that actively drives change and has the power to keep other branches in check is not exclusive to just common law systems though.

Yes.

But.

But.

But.

It's certainly fuckin' easier.

Flee · November 17, 2014, 04:35:58 PM

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More Than Mortal · November 17, 2014, 04:37:29 PM

Quote from: Flee on November 17, 2014, 04:35:58 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 17, 2014, 04:29:11 PM
Yes.

But.

But.

But.

It's certainly fuckin' easier.
Easier is not necessarily better though.

True, wouldn't a strong court of equity prevent any unsavoury "progress", though?

Kinder Graham · November 17, 2014, 04:50:47 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 17, 2014, 03:46:51 PM

Quote from: Flee on November 17, 2014, 03:45:15 PM
Option C, the judiciary?
Commonlaw4lyfe

Statutory law>Common law

We took your legal system and fined tuned it. Under common law, new laws are passed based on court precedence where as statutory is passed by government agencies to meet the needs of the citizens, to resolve outstanding issues, and to formalize an existing law.

I believe also under common, a person can be tried if something is later made illegal (example, person get caught smoking pot in 200. In 2005 pot is illegal and the government charges the person 5 years prior )

Flee would give a better representation of the differences than I could

Flee · November 17, 2014, 05:04:32 PM

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Flee · November 17, 2014, 05:20:57 PM

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More Than Mortal · November 17, 2014, 05:23:12 PM

Quote from: Flee on November 17, 2014, 05:04:32 PM

mixing them is a lot more preferable than either going full precedent on the one hand, or no judicial power other than to apply laws on the other.

If you had to choose between fully (or as much as is functionally possible) between common and civil law, which would you pick? Just as a matter of interest.

Flee · November 17, 2014, 05:51:04 PM

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