but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 11:11:03 PMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:59:14 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:57:37 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:52:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.Because you play up the "freedom of the body" bullshit when what you're really doing is promoting a public health risk and putting your child at risk of catching a disease we should be rid of by now if it weren't for people like you.I'd love to know what makes you think you, or any other person, has the right to dictate what goes into another person's body, especially considering you are a supporter of abortion rights.If you do not believe in bodily autonomy, I'm interested in knowing on what grounds you see abortion as justified.It's a public health issue, not a freedom issue. These people are a danger to those who cannot be vaccinated. I'm not speaking metaphorically.So is smoking, so is alcoholism, so is cocaine usage and marijuana.But reasonable people advocate for the legalization of these activities. Why?Because you have no right to dictate what I do with my body any more than I have the right to dictate what you do with yours.
Quote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:59:14 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:57:37 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:52:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.Because you play up the "freedom of the body" bullshit when what you're really doing is promoting a public health risk and putting your child at risk of catching a disease we should be rid of by now if it weren't for people like you.I'd love to know what makes you think you, or any other person, has the right to dictate what goes into another person's body, especially considering you are a supporter of abortion rights.If you do not believe in bodily autonomy, I'm interested in knowing on what grounds you see abortion as justified.It's a public health issue, not a freedom issue. These people are a danger to those who cannot be vaccinated. I'm not speaking metaphorically.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:57:37 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:52:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.Because you play up the "freedom of the body" bullshit when what you're really doing is promoting a public health risk and putting your child at risk of catching a disease we should be rid of by now if it weren't for people like you.I'd love to know what makes you think you, or any other person, has the right to dictate what goes into another person's body, especially considering you are a supporter of abortion rights.If you do not believe in bodily autonomy, I'm interested in knowing on what grounds you see abortion as justified.
Quote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:52:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.Because you play up the "freedom of the body" bullshit when what you're really doing is promoting a public health risk and putting your child at risk of catching a disease we should be rid of by now if it weren't for people like you.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.
Quote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.
lol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.
Quote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:52:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.wait but aren't you against abortions?
Quote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.
So is smoking, so is alcoholism, so is cocaine usage and marijuana.But reasonable people advocate for the legalization of these activities. Why?Because you have no right to dictate what I do with my body any more than I have the right to dictate what you do with yours.
Quote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYING
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice"
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYING
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said.
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.
You could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?There's quite a clear security:inconvenience ratio which vaccines obviously fulfil and your harebrained responses don't. Hell, let's use your own logic and justify something reprehensible. There's a higher chance of you dying from a preventable illness if you don't get vaccinated, so if your parents or you refuse a vaccine a government agent might as well take you out back and shoot you in the back of the skull. Do me a favour and think before you speak.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?
And yet still none of this refutes my claims. Yes, let's implement something even more tyrannical and drastic. Good job, retard
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?That's not even a relevant analogy.You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:17:06 PMAnd yet still none of this refutes my claims. Yes, let's implement something even more tyrannical and drastic. Good job, retardWhat? I'm using straw logic to demonstrate how your own straw logic is just that--straw logic. Getting a vaccine because you could get a preventable illness is qualitatively different to strapping airbags to yourself because you could get hit by a car and you fucking know it.
Except its not, because both are intended to prevent injury or illness. Checkmate.
CA expected to pass vaccination law
