Conservative heavy SC now that a bunch of civil rights cases for LGBTQ+ folks are likely going to be hitting the court in the coming years. Yeehaw.

Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 09, 2018, 06:57:42 AM

Quote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2018, 08:22:00 PM

Conservative heavy SC now that a bunch of civil rights cases for LGBTQ+ folks are likely going to be hitting the court in the coming years. Yeehaw.

This is probably the saddest part of this whole debacle and all anyone wants to talk about is Trump pardoning himself.

The point here being that this guy and his cronies are destroying the very foundations of American democracy, and if by some miracle the dems are successful in the midterms trump and co will get away with it too. No specific group is going to have the “saddest” outcome, it’s all bad.

Quote from: Rescue on October 09, 2018, 12:47:45 PM

And it’s not destroying the foundations of American democracy to bring forward sexual assault allegations as a last second attempt to destroy a man who won’t forward your agenda

if someone who sexually assaulted me was up for a Supreme Court nomination simply because he was the only judge willing to pardon the president in the event of impeachment, you can bet your ass i'd come forward and try to inform people on just exactly the kind of person they're putting on the supreme court.

you can mock "guilty until proven innocent" or try to say this was all the Dems doing to try and ruin Kavanaugh's reputation all you want but Ford and the other victims were denied a proper investigation by the FBI. this entire trial was a complete farce.

Quote from: Rescue on October 09, 2018, 01:24:07 PM

Let me ask you what was suppose to be found

DNA evidence?
A confession?
Video tapes?

Would you be satisfied with anything less than Kavanaugh’s arrest?

I would be satisfied with due process. We convict people of crimes all the time without any of those 3 things you suggested.

I can confidently say that if they managed to have an actual investigation, and came up with only their dick in their hands as far as evidence, I would accept Kavanaugh's confirmation. I still do not think he would be well-suited for the job for a myriad of reasons (partisanship, temperament, professional career history) but he would at least be a reasonable choice as far as this administration goes.

No, instead what we got was a farce of an investigation, and the message to the women of America (who already get criticised when they don't come forward with sexual assault allegations) that they won't be listened to.

1. I know it must be hard to imagine what a life-threatening situation feels like from your parents' basement, but people don't accurately remember anything but a few major details. Their brains go into survival mode and throw away unimportant information.

2. Almost everyone, including Republicans, believe Ford was sexually assaulted. It's pretty obvious she was. The talking point of the Republicans is that she "misremembered" her attacker, which according psychologists simply isn't a thing. One psychologist said she could not remember a single case of a sexual assault victim misremembering a known attacker.

3. Many trials only have the word of the two parties to go off of. That's why we investigate. More women than Ford came through with testimonies, and Kavanaugh's college roommate even said that he was known for getting black-out drunk and aggressive, and although he had never seen it first hand himself, after talking without other contemporaries of the time, had heard some stories that absolutely fit the narrative.

Quote from: Rescue on October 09, 2018, 12:47:45 PM

Quote from: challengerX on October 09, 2018, 11:51:54 AM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 09, 2018, 06:57:42 AM

Quote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2018, 08:22:00 PM

Conservative heavy SC now that a bunch of civil rights cases for LGBTQ+ folks are likely going to be hitting the court in the coming years. Yeehaw.

This is probably the saddest part of this whole debacle and all anyone wants to talk about is Trump pardoning himself.

The point here being that this guy and his cronies are destroying the very foundations of American democracy, and if by some miracle the dems are successful in the midterms trump and co will get away with it too. No specific group is going to have the “saddest” outcome, it’s all bad.

And it’s not destroying the foundations of American democracy to bring forward sexual assault allegations as a last second attempt to destroy a man who won’t forward your agenda

Republicans could have crammed Kavanaugh through but they held the hearing, had the investigation, and had a vote

You can flatter Trump but he’s not stronger than two centuries of the most democratic form of government ever created

LOL Under immense pressure they held a sham of a hearing where they all basically delayed each other and most of all Kavanaugh. Or are you such a naive dimwit that Graham’s speech had you in tears, standing up with your hand on your heart pledging allegiance? Why didn’t trump nominate the many other candidates? Is it perhaps because Kavanaugh is the only one who’s going to back trump on pardoning himself?

And what agenda, exactly?

But lets not forget the claim here is rape, not that he drank a lot. You cannot say the man raped a woman because he drank. It's a pathetic show to see you and every other democrat go from rape, to drinking, to he shouldn't be on the SC because he got mad when accused with rape.

Quote from: Eli on October 09, 2018, 01:22:26 PM

Quote from: Rescue on October 09, 2018, 12:47:45 PM

And it’s not destroying the foundations of American democracy to bring forward sexual assault allegations as a last second attempt to destroy a man who won’t forward your agenda

if someone who sexually assaulted me was up for a Supreme Court nomination simply because he was the only judge willing to pardon the president in the event of impeachment, you can bet your ass i'd come forward and try to inform people on just exactly the kind of person they're putting on the supreme court.

you can mock "guilty until proven innocent" or try to say this was all the Dems doing to try and ruin Kavanaugh's reputation all you want but Ford and the other victims were denied a proper investigation by the FBI. this entire trial was a complete farce.

Why wait 36 years?

Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 09, 2018, 05:35:50 PM

Also, false accusations aren't punished in the US. There's literally no consequences for ruining someone's life.

That's a separate problem and I don't think you'll find one respectable, liberal person who would argue against equal punishment against false accusations.

Virtually no one is saying this. The fact that he had been (and most likely still is) a black-out alcoholic is a witness to his character, and it's absolutely not a good thing.

I mean he clearly did it, but the main reason he should've been denied for the position was the way he handled the accusations.

I'm not going to indulge the rest of your post because you're very obviously a complete imbecile. I will say this pseudo-intellectual conservatism pushed by con-men like JBP, Ben Shapiro, and Watson have done irreversible damage to impressionable young people and we won't soon recover from it.

This dude talking like he's 50.