Bongistani cops shit themselves over a teenager with an air gun

 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
but they don't have a care what if what they do is wrong
Which is exactly the point. People with ASPD literally lack the emotional connection necessary for moral motivation. It's not that they decide to be an immoralist cunt - they are literally incapable of properly perceiving the weights and scales involved in ethical conduct.


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but they don't have a care what if what they do is wrong
Which is exactly the point. People with ASPD literally lack the emotional connection necessary for moral motivation. It's not that they decide to be an immoralist cunt - they are literally incapable of properly perceiving the weights and scales involved in ethical conduct.
But they still know committing a felony is still wrong. This isn't some person doing an act because a elephant with spider legs and a top hat told him or his family would be killed and there's a major difference. On a side note, I'm pretty emotionally detached with many things


 
 
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I wouldn't care if he was shot. Be an idiot then you get the idiot treatment
Please kinder, either wisen the fuck up or don't become a cop. I'm serious too.
So what if it was a real gun and the punk decided to fire at the residence of an individual? And where were his parents? They must be even more pathetic for not watching him
>punk

Yes, that's it. Blame the mentally ill! BLAME THEM KINDER, IT'S THEIR FAULT FOR BEING SINNERS.
All they did was give him tests; doesn't mean he's ill. And because a person has a defect, that doesn't automatically mean they have no understanding of right and wrong. My brother is on the autism spectrum and knows pointing a gun is bad, same with many others
Someone who walks down the street pointing a gun at the police is not right in the head, same as someone who walks into a school and starts shooting. The tests they are being given are to figure out what exactly is wrong with them so they can get treatment for it and return to normal.

And autism is not related to wandering down the street pointing guns are people, that's more the territory of clinical depression, schizophrenia, PTSD or a general term of being severely disturbed.
Aside from that, an anecdotal statement about your sibling doesn't necessarily apply to another human on the other side of the planet.
Just because somebody isn't doesn't mean they are paranoid-schizophrenics. A person with a disability can still understand right from wrong

Good thing I mentioned others
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But they still know committing a felony is still wrong
That's the thing though - they don't. They know that a judge tells them it's wrong, and that they'll be arrested and that society will demonise them, but they lack the ability to factor that in to an emotional consideration. People with ASPD - especially psychopaths - have brain abnormalities which account for this.

 
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But they still know committing a felony is still wrong.

They may have been told it is wrong and be aware that others think it is wrong, but since they lack emotions like empathy they're going to have a hard time understanding why it is wrong.
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But they still know committing a felony is still wrong.

They may have been told it's wrong and be aware others see it's wrong, but since they lack emotions like empathy they're going to have a hard time understanding why it's wrong.
I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong. There doesn't need to be a whole complicated response that pointing a firearm at people is wrong; it's wrong, don't do it, simple as that. Plus you have to PROVE this person lacked is in fact ASPD or else, all of this talk is just speaking in a philosophical standpoint


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong. There doesn't need to be a whole complicated response that pointing a firearm at people is wrong; it's wrong, don't do it, simple as that.
You obviously don't get it. It's like telling an alcoholic to just stop drinking. Or telling somebody who's depressed to just cheer up. If this were ADHD, or some sort of minor impulse control disorder then I'd understand, but you seem to be completely missing the point that these emotional disconnections and brain abnormalities lead it to be one of the most difficult to treat disorders. It also doesn't help that most psychopaths are narcissistic.

It's like expecting Ted Bundy to listen to you when you give him a stern telling off.


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I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong.

So, you stop doing things any time someone tells you it is wrong? Stop posted then, I think it's wrong.
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I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong.

So, you stop doing things any time someone tells you it is wrong? Stop posted then, I declare it wrong.
You're not my parent or any authority figure, what you say has no legal effect and is just a simple opinion. Government says threatening is wrong, there doesn't need to be 52 page essay explaining why, simply don't do it


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I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong.

So, you stop doing things any time someone tells you it is wrong? Stop posted then, I declare it wrong.
You're not my parent or any authority figure, what you say has no legal effect and is just a simple opinion. Government says threatening is wrong, there doesn't need to be 52 page essay explaining why, simply don't do it

So it's only morally wrong if there is a law against it? What if someone doesn't recognize the government as their authority figure (like many psychopaths)?
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I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong. There doesn't need to be a whole complicated response that pointing a firearm at people is wrong; it's wrong, don't do it, simple as that.
You obviously don't get it. It's like telling an alcoholic to just stop drinking. Or telling somebody who's depressed to just cheer up. If this were ADHD, or some sort of minor impulse control disorder then I'd understand, but you seem to be completely missing the point that these emotional disconnections and brain abnormalities lead it to be one of the most difficult to treat disorders. It also doesn't help that most psychopaths are narcissistic.

It's like expecting Ted Bundy to listen to you when you give him a stern telling off.
I do get it. What I don't get is how you need emotions to listen to simple directions, if we're going with that then I will commit a crime and my plea would be I have no understanding why it was wrong. Know what the court will do? Laugh and say it doesn't matter what I feel, I've been told and it's written that committing certain acts is wrong


 
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You're not my parent or any authority figure
Which is exactly how a psychopath responds to pretty much anybody who isn't himself.


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Kinder you are on a roll lately
When am I not?


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Know what the court will do? Laugh and say it doesn't matter what I feel, I've been told and it's written that committing certain acts is wrong
Which is why psychopathy isn't considered an illness with which one can be classed criminally insane.

Let me change tack and ask you a direct question: If you find a man who has murdered a woman "just to know what it felt like", and then further examination showed a tumor the size of a golf-ball in his prefrontal cortex, would you hold him seriously morally responsible?


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You're not my parent or any authority figure
Which is exactly how a psychopath responds to pretty much anybody who isn't himself.
But how do you know for certain this person is a nutcase? If he is then I'll think differently on the whole thing, but as of now we're just delving into a discussion that doesn't relate to the kid's for certain condition. I'm just going to save everybody the time and stop debating the issue


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
But how do you know for certain this person is a nutcase?
Having a 16-year-old point a rifle at police is fairly indicative of some sort of antisocial tendencies. I'm essentially the most serious authority on this site on the issue - as Mr. P will surely attest - since I know what it's like to think like him, and I've done my research.

There are ways of separating the wolves from the herd. We'll find out soon enough. The point, however, is that if he is indeed antisocial, then we cannot seriously say he knows right from wrong.


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But how do you know for certain this person is a nutcase?

We don't know either way, which is why it's worthwhile to actually find out before just gunning him down on sight.

Besides, many would argue that it is more unlikely that someone pointing a gun at people would not have some kind of mental issues.
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Know what the court will do? Laugh and say it doesn't matter what I feel, I've been told and it's written that committing certain acts is wrong
Which is why psychopathy isn't considered an illness with which one can be classed criminally insane.

Let me change tack and ask you a direct question: If you find a man who has murdered a woman "just to know what it felt like", and then further examination showed a tumor the size of a golf-ball in his prefrontal cortex, would you hold him seriously morally responsible?
Depends on what medical professionals determine. If the tumor was directly effecting him, then I'd still hold him responsible but to a lesser degree; he did commit a crime but wasn't all the way there. It's kinda like how you can still be charged with statutory rape, no manner how many forms of ID the chick pulls out saying she is of legal age


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
he did commit a crime but wasn't all the way there.
It's exactly the same for psychopaths.


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But how do you know for certain this person is a nutcase?

We don't know either way, which is why it's worthwhile to actually find out before just gunning him down on sight.
Which brings to my point many responses back, what if he opened fire and a bystander in their house was struck? What if the pellet gun had been a real gun and a person was hit? The department would be held accountable. A situation where an armed person is outside in a populated area is different than a person in their home with nobody around. In certain situations, things have to be taken to action in a swift manner to prevent unnecessary collateral damage


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
In certain situations, things have to be taken to action in a swift manner to prevent unnecessary collateral damage
And he very nearly was shot.


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But how do you know for certain this person is a nutcase?
Having a 16-year-old point a rifle at police is fairly indicative of some sort of antisocial tendencies. I'm essentially the most serious authority on this site on the issue - as Mr. P will surely attest - since I know what it's like to think like him, and I've done my research.

There are ways of separating the wolves from the herd. We'll find out soon enough. The point, however, is that if he is indeed antisocial, then we cannot seriously say he knows right from wrong.
And I'm not denying your authority on the issue, I just don't see it as you do and see it all from a legal, non-medical perspective since that's what I'm good at. If he is shown to be a whacko then I will reside my current stance but will continue to hold it till then. But when you're acting an officer and grabbing his gun, as with Brown, then you're going to get shot; if you're pointing a rifle outside where bystanders can be possibly injured, then chances are you will be shot


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I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong.

So, you stop doing things any time someone tells you it is wrong? Stop posted then, I declare it wrong.
You're not my parent or any authority figure, what you say has no legal effect and is just a simple opinion. Government says threatening is wrong, there doesn't need to be 52 page essay explaining why, simply don't do it

It's only wrong because the government says it wrong?

If we still had slaves, would it be okay because the government says it's okay?


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But how do you know for certain this person is a nutcase?

We don't know either way, which is why it's worthwhile to actually find out before just gunning him down on sight.
Which brings to my point many responses back, what if he opened fire and a bystander in their house was struck? What if the pellet gun had been a real gun and a person was hit? The department would be held accountable. A situation where an armed person is outside in a populated area is different than a person in their home with nobody around. In certain situations, things have to be taken to action in a swift manner to prevent unnecessary collateral damage
It's quite a gamble, I'll give you that. If you shoot, you definitely kill a person and might have saved others. If you don't shoot you don't kill a person but might endanger others. It's a loose-loose situation.
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I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong.

So, you stop doing things any time someone tells you it is wrong? Stop posted then, I declare it wrong.
You're not my parent or any authority figure, what you say has no legal effect and is just a simple opinion. Government says threatening is wrong, there doesn't need to be 52 page essay explaining why, simply don't do it

It's only wrong because the government says it wrong?

If we still had slaves, would it be okay because the government says it's okay?
This is where legal and moral ideas come in play. Morally, it would be wrong and I wouldn't own a slave; but it would be legally right. If you want to play that card, then read the 13th Amendment as it allows slavery, so long as a punishment for a crime


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What a waste of time and money, it woulda been cheaper to have shot him.


 
 
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What a waste of time and money, it woulda been cheaper to have shot him.
This is the serious board.


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What a waste of time and money, it woulda been cheaper to have shot him.
This is the serious board.

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SIx hours, huh? He'd probably have been shot in six minutes over here...
For the six minutes thing I take it that would simply be the response time? The shooting part would take seconds?