Best way of organising healthcare?

More Than Mortal · May 31, 2015, 02:59:23 PM

As many Bongs will know (especially Mr P.), the NHS is a fucking religion over here. Mention anything even vaguely suggestive of not having the NHS completely operated by the government and suddenly you're some big business, corporatist shill. All of this despite the fact that the NHS is a relatively bad healthcare system (God help you if you're a politician and say that, though) and that most of the best forms of healthcare are more oriented towards competition and have less gate-keeping.

Personally, I favour Social Health Insurance, as in Germany, Switzerland and the Netherlands.

challengerX · May 31, 2015, 03:02:45 PM

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big dog · May 31, 2015, 03:05:33 PM

The NHS.

No Healthcare System.
If you get ill or injured it just goes to show that you're weak and should be left behind.

Naru · May 31, 2015, 03:06:45 PM

Stop being sick. We'll have evolution take care of the rest.

Mordo · May 31, 2015, 03:11:54 PM

Ideally I would like to see government out of the medical industry altogether.

But given how infeasible that'll be, a dual funded system where people still pay tax but competition is also encouraged amongst medical providers seems like the most idyllic and realistic scenario at this point.

BrenMan 94 · June 01, 2015, 01:11:01 AM

The Swiss system seems pretty good.

Genghis Khan · June 01, 2015, 03:14:57 AM

Privatize and cut down the taxes with an axe.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · June 01, 2015, 01:55:29 PM

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Forgewolf · June 01, 2015, 07:05:46 PM

What we need to do is get rid of all these damn preservatives and fake foods that cause more than 50% of all known disorders/diseases. Then Healthcare won't be as screwed up as it is. Stop consuming so much crap made by humans such as sodas, chips, etc.

Mr. Psychologist · June 02, 2015, 01:57:14 PM

Normally I'd be ready to type up quite a bit but my finger is a bit borked at the moment so typing with the others alone is dodgy >_>

Universal Healthcare = Fundamental yoomin roight, one of the few that I genuinely believe in rather than scoff at >_>

I'd rather see some fixes made within the NHS than some shift to another system where the money grubbing comes into play. If a proper attempt doesn't bear fruit, then the system you linked doesn't sound too... disgusting >_>

Casper · June 02, 2015, 01:58:46 PM

Don't the French have a pretty good health care system?

More Than Mortal · June 02, 2015, 01:59:57 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 02, 2015, 01:57:14 PM

Universal Healthcare = Fundamental yoomin roight

Sure, but there's a difference between universal and national.

Most countries don't have nationalised healthcare, but they do have universal healthcare.

Mr. Psychologist · June 02, 2015, 02:01:17 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on June 02, 2015, 01:59:57 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 02, 2015, 01:57:14 PM
Universal Healthcare = Fundamental yoomin roight
Sure, but there's a difference between universal and national.

Most countries don't have nationalised healthcare, but they do have universal healthcare.

Indeed, if it's provided without having to sell your house to pay for a heart operation then that's fine by me. So basically ABA, anything but america.

More Than Mortal · June 02, 2015, 02:02:29 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 02, 2015, 02:01:17 PM

So basically ABA, anything but america.

I think everybody agrees with that; America's healthcare system is a mess.