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Under the Master Persuader filter, where reason is an illusion, I like to watch how stereotypes are shaping up in order to know what’s really happening.

Forget about policies for now. Let’s look at the stereotypes we are starting to form in our minds for the major candidates.

For Trump, we have the “angry white male racists” stereotype for his supporters. As with all stereotypes, it has enough grains of truth to hold it’s shape, but it isn’t an actual truth.

Likewise, in the stereotyped world of our biased brains, Hillary Clinton’s supporters fall into three groups now:

1. Women

2. Unarmed men

3. Rapists

Ted Cruz’ supporters are mostly Canadians and ultra-conservative Republicans who can’t get past Trump’s haircut. Again, this is just the cartoon versions forming in our minds, not any kind of truth.

But Bernie Sanders is the interesting one. His strongest base of support is people in their early twenties. As stereotypes go, that’s a good one. In our biased minds, Bernie doesn’t have supporters who are racists, rapists, or Canadians. His supporters are young, healthy, college kids.

Advantage: Sanders

But here’s the funny part. And I wonder if you already see it. What distinction do the young have – as voters – that is different from the racists, rapists, Canadians, angry white men, unarmed men, conservative Republicans, and women?

Answer: The young are the stupidest voters

I say this with affection. I was once young myself. And I know how little I understood about the world then, compared to now. My IQ was about the same, but in terms of wisdom and perspective, I was operating at about 10% of my potential. That’s probably true for everyone. We start ignorant and we improve with age.

Just to be clear, what I’m saying is that even if Sanders supporters were ALSO racists, rapists, Canadians, ultra-conservative Republicans, women, and angry white men – they would be the dumbest among that grouping. The young are the dumbest (in terms of politics) in EVERY group.

In a world of reason, the candidate with the strongest support among young (i.e. dumb) voters would seem the most ridiculous. Instead, we see it as the best possible situation for a candidate, in terms of the optics of it. It looks great to have the young on your side, with their energy and optimism.

When you think of Sanders – and whether you like him or not – you probably have in your mind that he’s the adult in the conversation. He doesn’t seem to intentionally say things he knows to be untrue. You can question the math of his policies, or the practicality, but it does look as if he means what he says. And what does Sanders get for being so rational and reasonable?

He gets the dumbest supporters.


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Dumb college kid is an oxymoron.


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Dumb college kid is an oxymoron.
have you been to college?

It's filled with as much of the lowest common denominator as any other setting in life.
The majority of college students aren't stupid. If you're stupid then you can't afford to be in college


 
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Dumb college kid is an oxymoron.
have you been to college?

It's filled with as much of the lowest common denominator as any other setting in life.
The majority of college students aren't stupid. If you're stupid then you can't afford to be in college
HAHAHA

Septy is a dumb college kid, guys.
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Dumb college kid is an oxymoron.
have you been to college?

It's filled with as much of the lowest common denominator as any other setting in life.
The majority of college students aren't stupid. If you're stupid then you can't afford to be in college
Ehh... you can be book smart but still really stupid


 
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Worthless ad hominem that isn't worth a second thought.


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Worthless ad hominem that isn't worth a second thought.

Pretty much what I was thinking.

You could just as easily, and just as erroneously say that all Conservatives are just gun toting racists.


 
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Dumb college kid is an oxymoron.
have you been to college?

It's filled with as much of the lowest common denominator as any other setting in life.
The majority of college students aren't stupid. If you're stupid then you can't afford to be in college
Yes they are and yes you can.


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Dumb college kid is an oxymoron.
have you been to college?

It's filled with as much of the lowest common denominator as any other setting in life.
The majority of college students aren't stupid. If you're stupid then you can't afford to be in college
uh... i beg to differ


 
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Worthless ad hominem that isn't worth a second thought.

Pretty much what I was thinking.

You could just as easily, and just as erroneously say that all Conservatives are just gun toting racists.
Except it's not entirely clear that support for Cruz is disproportionately racist gun-owners. It is clear that a disproportionate amount of Sanders' support comes from the young.


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Worthless ad hominem that isn't worth a second thought.

Pretty much what I was thinking.

You could just as easily, and just as erroneously say that all Conservatives are just gun toting racists.
Except it's not entirely clear that support for Cruz is disproportionately racist gun-owners. It is clear that a disproportionate amount of Sanders' support comes from the young.

So?


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
So?
We have a legitimate basis by which to judge him. Having data about who supports a certain candidate does allow us to draw conclusions. I'm not saying the OP is correct, merely that his point is not fallacious.


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So?
We have a legitimate basis by which to judge him. Having data about who supports a certain candidate does allow us to draw conclusions. I'm not saying the OP is correct, merely that his point is not fallacious.

He says the 18-25 year old base are idiots. All of them. May as well say ALL Muslims are terrorists, ALL Mexicans are lazy, ALL Whites are entitled racists, ALL women are sluts, ALL blacks criminals etc...

There isn't a valid point here, other than Bernie supporters tend to be young.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
He says the 18-25 year old base are idiots.
Again, doesn't make it fallacious.

It's like complaining if somebody here said "Trade unionists support Jeremy Corbyn". It's both true, and we have the capacity to take some information from that.

And, let's be perfectly honest, a lot of 18-25 year olds don't have especially tenable ideas on government and policy.


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And, let's be perfectly honest, a lot of 18-25 year olds don't have especially tenable ideas on government and policy.
compared to whom, the older generations? its not like the baby boomers or gen x'ers are necessarily politically gifted. seems like there isnt really much of a distinction here aside from age/experience. id say that lack of political acumen is something that plagues the human race as a whole, and not necessarily any one generation over another.
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He says the 18-25 year old base are idiots.
And, let's be perfectly honest, a lot of 18-25 year olds don't have especially tenable ideas on government and policy.

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seems like there isnt really much of a distinction here aside from age/experience.
That's my point. I'm sure the Boomers were pretty dumb in their early years.

I'm saying if a candidate draws support disproportionately from a particular demographic then we are not fallacious to try and draw conclusions. The same applies as much to Ron Paul as Sanders.


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seems like there isnt really much of a distinction here aside from age/experience.
That's my point. I'm sure the Boomers were pretty dumb in their early years.

And I'm sure most of the Boomers are still "pretty dumb." I'd like to reiterate my earlier point- this is a problem that affects people of all ages.

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I'm saying if a candidate draws support disproportionately from a particular demographic then we are not fallacious to try and draw conclusions. The same applies as much to Ron Paul as Sanders.
I don't disagree.


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Really tho if you support Bernie you need to reevaluate your life


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"I was a liberal when I was young, therefore all young liberals will eventually be conservatives. Also I was dumb then and I'm not now so all young liberals must be dumb."

This doesn't even belong on the serious board in my opinion.