Bar unvaccinated kids from public school?

Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
Quote
Carl Krawitt has watched his son, Rhett, now 6, fight leukemia for the past 4 1/2 years. For more than three of those years, Rhett has undergone round after round of chemotherapy. Last year he finished chemotherapy, and doctors say he is in remission.

Now, there's a new threat, one that the family should not have to worry about: measles.

Rhett cannot be vaccinated, because his immune system is still rebuilding. It may be months more before his body is healthy enough to get all his immunizations. Until then, he depends on everyone around him for protection — what's known as herd immunity.

But Rhett lives in Marin County, Calif., a county with the dubious honor of having the highest rate of "personal belief exemptions" in the Bay Area and among the highest in the state. This school year, 6.45 percent of children in Marin have a personal belief exemption, which allows parents to lawfully send their children to school unvaccinated against communicable diseases like measles, polio, whooping cough and more.

Carl Krawitt has had just about enough. "It's very emotional for me," he said. "If you choose not to immunize your own child and your own child dies because they get measles, OK, that's your responsibility, that's your choice. But if your child gets sick and gets my child sick and my child dies, then ... your action has harmed my child."

Krawitt is taking action of his own. His son attends Reed Elementary in Tiburon, a school with a 7 percent personal belief exemption rate. (The statewide average is 2.5 percent). Krawitt had previously worked with the school nurse to make sure that all the children in his son's class were fully vaccinated. He said the school was very helpful and accommodating.

Now Krawitt and his wife, Jodi, have emailed the district's superintendent, requesting that the district "require immunization as a condition of attendance, with the only exception being those who cannot medically be vaccinated."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2015/01/27/381888697/to-protect-his-son-a-father-asks-school-to-bar-unvaccinated-children

I can't believe this isn't already the case. This "personal belief" exemption is bullshit.


ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: TrussingDoor
IP: Logged

7,667 posts
"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him saying, 'You are mad, you are not like us'."
-Saint Anthony the Great
This user has been blacklisted from posting on the forums. Until the blacklist is lifted, all posts made by this user have been hidden and require a Sep7agon® SecondClass Premium Membership to view.


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

37,630 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
You only think it's bullshit because you have no personal beliefs that go against vaccination.
Post-modernism is bullshit, Door.


Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
You only think it's bullshit because you have no personal beliefs that go against vaccination.
Then their personal beliefs are wrong and they have no business being a public health risk to other people.


 
𝑺𝒆𝒄𝒐𝒏𝒅𝑪𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒔
| 𝑪𝒂𝒓𝒎𝒆𝒏
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: ModernLocust
Steam:
ID: SecondClass
IP: Logged

30,022 posts
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen
Serious vaccinations like polio or measles? Of course. Fucking useless vaccinations like the flu shot? Of course not.


Raptorx7 | Ascended Posting Frenzy
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Raptorx789
Steam: AceAttorney
ID: Raptorx7
IP: Logged

290 posts
"I will show you where the Iron Crosses grow!"
Yeah I agree with that.


Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
Serious vaccinations like polio or measles? Of course. Fucking useless vaccinations like the flu shot? Of course not.
Yeah, I'm talking about the serious shit. I couldn't care less if you get the flu shot or not.


Turkey | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: Viva Redemption
PSN: HurtfulTurkey
Steam: HurtfulTurkey
ID: HurtfulTurkey
IP: Logged

8,077 posts
 
My university required the MMR vaccine. I see no compelling reason why a public school should not require it either.


 
big sponge
| PP
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Lord Commissar
IP: Logged

11,900 posts
 
>Marin county

Why am I not surprised?


aMetroid | Ascended Posting Riot
 
more |
XBL: ImailU2Heaven
PSN:
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/prof
ID: aMetroid
IP: Logged

578 posts
 
They should not restrict kids from School if they do not get vaccinated as it only effects other children if that aren't vaccinated.


Anonymous (User Deleted) | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Kupo
IP: Logged

6,364 posts
 
Everyone else shouldn't have to suffer because some dipshit parents have stupid opinions.


 
cxfhvxgkcf-56:7
| Marty Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: SoporificSlash
IP: Logged

15,656 posts
 
This user has been blacklisted from posting on the forums. Until the blacklist is lifted, all posts made by this user have been hidden and require a Sep7agon® SecondClass Premium Membership to view.


Mordo | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Madman Mordo
IP: Logged

7,249 posts
emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Yes.

And they should be striking down that personal belief malarkey as soon as possible.


 
Isara
| Forum Architect
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Isara
IP: Logged

2,199 posts
 
Yes, it's high time that this issue was tackled in an effective, and aggressive manner.


Statefarm | Heroic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL: Sapid Statefarm
PSN:
Steam: Statefarm
ID: Statefarm
IP: Logged

3,727 posts
Moms spaghetti
I feel sorry for kids who don't get vaccinated.


Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
They should not restrict kids from School if they do not get vaccinated as it only effects other children if that aren't vaccinated.
Some children CAN'T be vaccinated. Exemptions of personal belief are a danger to those who can't be vaccinated.


Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
I've never been vaccinated in my life and I've never been cripplingly sick in my life. Never even had the flu.
All you're doing is proving how important it is for others to be vaccinated. Herd immunity works...but not when these unvaccinated kids hang around in their own little cliques.


Naoto | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Naoto
IP: Logged

3,753 posts
{zzz}°°°( -_-)>c[_]
Its my personal belief they shouldn't be endangering the lives of others with their stupidity.
Since its my personal belief that means they can't do it.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
I didn't vaccinate my son. This really doesn't effect me one way or another because I plan on private school.

But Why not let unvaccinated kids in schools? It's not like the vaccinated kids can catch any diseases right? They are vaccinated after all.


 
Alternative Facts
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: IcyWind
IP: Logged

9,381 posts
 
But Why not let unvaccinated kids in schools? It's not like the vaccinated kids can catch any diseases right? They are vaccinated after all.



It's important to ensure as many children are vaccinated - when more of the community is immunized, it makes it more difficult for the disease to spread - even to other children who are not vaccinated.

The chart goes off a standard flu vaccination, but it is a similar idea for other diseases (Measles)


Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
I didn't vaccinate my son. This really doesn't effect me one way or another because I plan on private school.

But Why not let unvaccinated kids in schools? It's not like the vaccinated kids can catch any diseases right? They are vaccinated after all.
So you're just going to...hope your kid doesn't get a terrible disease that people shouldn't be getting in 2015? By not vaccinating your child, you're endangering the health and the life of children who can't get vaccinated.


BrenMan 94 | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: BrenMan 94
PSN:
Steam: BrenMan 94
ID: BrenMan 94
IP: Logged

1,886 posts
 
Soccer moms gtfo


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
I didn't vaccinate my son. This really doesn't effect me one way or another because I plan on private school.

But Why not let unvaccinated kids in schools? It's not like the vaccinated kids can catch any diseases right? They are vaccinated after all.
So you're just going to...hope your kid doesn't get a terrible disease that people shouldn't be getting in 2015? By not vaccinating your child, you're endangering the health and the life of children who can't get vaccinated.

Yep, I'm just going to hope. So far, so good.


Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
I didn't vaccinate my son. This really doesn't effect me one way or another because I plan on private school.

But Why not let unvaccinated kids in schools? It's not like the vaccinated kids can catch any diseases right? They are vaccinated after all.
So you're just going to...hope your kid doesn't get a terrible disease that people shouldn't be getting in 2015? By not vaccinating your child, you're endangering the health and the life of children who can't get vaccinated.

Yep, I'm just going to hope. So far, so good.
I genuinely hope you end up vaccinating your child. That's a very dangerous gamble to make.


 
Alternative Facts
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: IcyWind
IP: Logged

9,381 posts
 
I didn't vaccinate my son. This really doesn't effect me one way or another because I plan on private school.

But Why not let unvaccinated kids in schools? It's not like the vaccinated kids can catch any diseases right? They are vaccinated after all.
So you're just going to...hope your kid doesn't get a terrible disease that people shouldn't be getting in 2015? By not vaccinating your child, you're endangering the health and the life of children who can't get vaccinated.

Yep, I'm just going to hope. So far, so good.

I do hope your child doesn't become horribly sick and face potential death at such an early age because of a stupid decision like to not vaccinate.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
I didn't vaccinate my son. This really doesn't effect me one way or another because I plan on private school.

But Why not let unvaccinated kids in schools? It's not like the vaccinated kids can catch any diseases right? They are vaccinated after all.
So you're just going to...hope your kid doesn't get a terrible disease that people shouldn't be getting in 2015? By not vaccinating your child, you're endangering the health and the life of children who can't get vaccinated.

Yep, I'm just going to hope. So far, so good.
I genuinely hope you end up vaccinating your child. That's a very dangerous gamble to make.

I doubt I will.

Noone is getting friggin Hep B or Polio these days. Theres no point for the potential risks that vaccinations bring.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
I didn't vaccinate my son. This really doesn't effect me one way or another because I plan on private school.

But Why not let unvaccinated kids in schools? It's not like the vaccinated kids can catch any diseases right? They are vaccinated after all.
So you're just going to...hope your kid doesn't get a terrible disease that people shouldn't be getting in 2015? By not vaccinating your child, you're endangering the health and the life of children who can't get vaccinated.

Yep, I'm just going to hope. So far, so good.

I do hope your child doesn't become horribly sick and face potential death at such an early age because of a stupid decision like to not vaccinate.

I hope not either.

But I know what won't happen. Him having a peanut allergy or an increased risk of autism.


Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
I didn't vaccinate my son. This really doesn't effect me one way or another because I plan on private school.

But Why not let unvaccinated kids in schools? It's not like the vaccinated kids can catch any diseases right? They are vaccinated after all.
So you're just going to...hope your kid doesn't get a terrible disease that people shouldn't be getting in 2015? By not vaccinating your child, you're endangering the health and the life of children who can't get vaccinated.

Yep, I'm just going to hope. So far, so good.
I genuinely hope you end up vaccinating your child. That's a very dangerous gamble to make.

I doubt I will.

Noone is getting friggin Hep B or Polio these days. Theres no point for the potential risks that vaccinations bring.
"Nobody" gets it because people get fucking vaccinations. Hepatitis is still a thing, though. Did you not have to get that vaccination set before going to college? I did.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
Not to say that I won't consider it when he is older (around 3-4).

I'd rather not vaccinate him while he is so young. China actually increased their age of vaccination and their infant death was quite a bit lower.

You can always vaccinate, but you can never un-vaccinate.


Mad Max | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: madmax0808
ID: Mad Max
IP: Logged

7,519 posts
 
I didn't vaccinate my son. This really doesn't effect me one way or another because I plan on private school.

But Why not let unvaccinated kids in schools? It's not like the vaccinated kids can catch any diseases right? They are vaccinated after all.
So you're just going to...hope your kid doesn't get a terrible disease that people shouldn't be getting in 2015? By not vaccinating your child, you're endangering the health and the life of children who can't get vaccinated.

Yep, I'm just going to hope. So far, so good.

I do hope your child doesn't become horribly sick and face potential death at such an early age because of a stupid decision like to not vaccinate.

I hope not either.

But I know what won't happen. Him having a peanut allergy or an increased risk of autism.
You really shouldn't ever reply to this topic again after making this comment.