Are you seriously still baiting this forum? Get a fucking life already, or atleast come up with some new material.

Are you seriously still baiting this forum? Get a fucking life already, or atleast come up with some new material.

Bro, heres a suggestion.

If you honestly think I'm baiting, or trolling then just don't respond to me. Is it honestly that hard?

I really wish there was an place of eternal harmony that you go to after you die, where all your deceased loved ones and friends are waiting for you. I cannot overstate how much I wish there was a place like that. But the sad fact of the matter is that it doesn't exist. After death, there is literally nothing. No black void, no fire, just simply nothing. It's an incredibly scary thought, and I can see why people would rather believe in religion than the idea of nothingness. I would love to delude myself in that belief, and I did for a while. But everyone has to face the truth sometime. The kind of funny thing is that Christians will never be proven wrong. When they die, they won't have the cognition to realize that their beliefs were incorrect.

Quote from: SecondClass on September 15, 2014, 10:18:19 PM

I really wish there was an place of eternal harmony that you go to after you die, where all your deceased loved ones and friends are waiting for you. I cannot overstate how much I wish there was a place like that. But the sad fact of the matter is that it doesn't exist. After death, there is literally nothing. No black void, no fire, just simply nothing. It's an incredibly scary thought, and I can see why people would rather believe in religion than the idea of nothingness. I would love to delude myself in that belief, and I did for a while. But everyone has to face the truth sometime. The kind of funny thing is that Christians will never be proven wrong. When they die, they won't have the cognition to realize that their beliefs were incorrect.

I would say "How do you know that?" but I just don't feel like it. :/

Not really atheist nor a theist but as the old saying goes "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."

I know it from basic logic. Everything that you are; your personality, your memory, your identity, who you are is all a construct of your brain. And when you die, your brain rots into nonexistence, along with who you are. I find it funny that such a simple concept is up to so much debate.

Quote from: Korra on September 15, 2014, 10:23:49 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 15, 2014, 10:18:19 PM

I really wish there was an place of eternal harmony that you go to after you die, where all your deceased loved ones and friends are waiting for you. I cannot overstate how much I wish there was a place like that. But the sad fact of the matter is that it doesn't exist. After death, there is literally nothing. No black void, no fire, just simply nothing. It's an incredibly scary thought, and I can see why people would rather believe in religion than the idea of nothingness. I would love to delude myself in that belief, and I did for a while. But everyone has to face the truth sometime. The kind of funny thing is that Christians will never be proven wrong. When they die, they won't have the cognition to realize that their beliefs were incorrect.

I would say "How do you know that?" but I just don't feel like it. :/

Not really atheist nor a theist but as the old saying goes "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."

I know it from basic logic. Everything that you are; your personality, your memory, your identity, who you are is all a construct of your brain. And when you die, your brain rots into nonexistence, along with who you are. I find it funny that such a simple concept is up to so much debate.

I don't simply know. I mean sure, the physical body goes away but...I guess the hope of a better place is really hard to shake out of certain people. Like myself. Its just...hope, nothing valuable or important, just the hope that somewhere in this universe there is some kind of second chapter or something.

But yeah, the body returns to the Earth.

I don't find oblivion scary at all. It's childish to, really.

Maybe it is childish, but it still scares the hell out of me. Throughout life, no matter how alone you are, you always have your consciousness. I just can't grasp the concept of that being stripped away.

I don't really find the concept of eternal nothingness scary, really, just the unpleasant acts associated with dying.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 16, 2014, 08:52:09 AM

I don't really find the concept of eternal nothingness scary, really, just the unpleasant acts associated with dying.

All things considered, a normal age related death isn't so bad. Like going to sleep really. Of course, all the other shit that is an outside influence and can happen to you is what sucks.

Drowning or burning would be fucking horrible.

Chances are that if I'm dying as an 80 year old man than there's gong to be organ failure or colon cancer involved. Neither of those sound fun.

Highest case scenario: Consciousness is retained, but the physical form is lost. In essence, you're part of something greater, the mesh of the universe, another level of consciousness.

Lowest case scenario: Consciousness is lost, physical form is lost, but your atoms are still scattered to the winds and what you were blends into the grand clockwork of things.

Either way, it's best if we do our best while we're here. Make damn sure your loved ones know they're loved.

Why can't there be more replies like this in this forum, instead of "You become dirt, lol religion iz wrong, I no consider other viewpnts cuz science".

That would make this place, much, much more bearable.

Quote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 12:51:14 AM

Highest case scenario: Consciousness is retained, but the physical form is lost. In essence, you're part of something greater, the mesh of the universe, another level of consciousness.

Lowest case scenario: Consciousness is lost, physical form is lost, but your atoms are still scattered to the winds and what you were blends into the grand clockwork of things.

Either way, it's best if we do our best while we're here. Make damn sure your loved ones know they're loved.

Why can't there be more replies like this in this forum, instead of "You become dirt, lol religion iz wrong, I no consider other viewpnts cuz science".

That would make this place, much, much more bearable.

Because we're not all quasi-Buddhists in a chronic state of indecisiveness.

Why can't there be more replies like this in this forum, instead of "You become dirt, lol religion iz wrong, I no consider other viewpnts cuz science".

That would make this place, much, much more bearable.

This question is targeted directly at atheists, so what did you expect?

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on September 16, 2014, 03:53:08 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 12:51:14 AM

Highest case scenario: Consciousness is retained, but the physical form is lost. In essence, you're part of something greater, the mesh of the universe, another level of consciousness.

Lowest case scenario: Consciousness is lost, physical form is lost, but your atoms are still scattered to the winds and what you were blends into the grand clockwork of things.

Either way, it's best if we do our best while we're here. Make damn sure your loved ones know they're loved.

Why can't there be more replies like this in this forum, instead of "You become dirt,

He literally fucking said you become dirt.

If you simplify what he said and take out the romanticism of his word usage, this is what it says:

Best case scenario: You become a spooky ghost or integrate into some kind of universal spirit thing

Worst case scenario: You become dirt

He didn't say outright, "this is how something is, disagree with me then you're wrong". Which is what I got from plenty of comments in this thread.

I'm not asking for perfect neutrality, but there's a difference between stating your beliefs and stating your beliefs as eternal truths. I believe in God, but I don't go around saying, "You're going to Heaven when you die, God is going to love you, you piece of shit, so accept it already.".

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on September 16, 2014, 06:02:28 PM

Quote from: TrussingDoor on September 16, 2014, 05:10:57 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on September 16, 2014, 03:53:08 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 12:51:14 AM

Highest case scenario: Consciousness is retained, but the physical form is lost. In essence, you're part of something greater, the mesh of the universe, another level of consciousness.

Lowest case scenario: Consciousness is lost, physical form is lost, but your atoms are still scattered to the winds and what you were blends into the grand clockwork of things.

Either way, it's best if we do our best while we're here. Make damn sure your loved ones know they're loved.

Why can't there be more replies like this in this forum, instead of "You become dirt,

He literally fucking said you become dirt.

If you simplify what he said and take out the romanticism of his word usage, this is what it says:

Best case scenario: You become a spooky ghost or integrate into some kind of universal spirit thing

Worst case scenario: You become dirt

He didn't say outright, "this is how something is, disagree with me then you're wrong". Which is what I got from plenty of comments in this thread.

I'm not asking for perfect neutrality, but there's a difference between stating your beliefs and stating your beliefs as eternal truths. I believe in God, but I don't go around saying, "You're going to Heaven when you die, God is going to love you, you piece of shit, so accept it already.".

Nobody in this thread was saying that.

I mean, shit, I'll say it, because it's true, but fuck, everyone here isn't me.

Good to know.

The ground or a jar.