Look, I'm all for more economic and social freedom. But this sentiment of absolutely no semblance of government whatsoever, is well, retarded to put it lightly. Basic governance is essential for society to operate. I know this raises a lot of anarcho capitalist heckles here, but it's a fact.
Quote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 04:12:27 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 04:07:29 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:49:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 03:42:54 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:39:46 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 03:30:11 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:26:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 07:54:41 AMQuote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 15, 2015, 07:10:14 AMQuote from: challengerX on March 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PMAlright...No right to work lawsAbsurdly high state income taxRent control NYC eminent domain regulations disproportionately favor developers over homeownersFunding for worker's comp is severely restrictedNon-group coverage is nearly a nonexistent option due to state over regulationStop and FriskTobbaco policy even more restrictive than Pennsylvania's own"Motor Vehicle Law Enforcement Fee"I didn't even touche firearm policy or California.I don't see how people have less freedom due to these laws. They're bad things to be sure, but they don't restrict freedom. The exception being Stop and Frisk. But seeing how Arizona has Nazi police that ask you for your paperwork, your argument is moot.I've never had a problem like that with them or heard of that, maybe that is just close to the border? And perhaps if you have reasonable suspicion that they might be in this country illegally, they have a duty to investigate. After all.. Police are there to enforce laws and investigate. I don't want people here illegally. The only exception I would make to house illegals is if there is a disgusting war plaguing their nation or genocide.. Otherwise, they need to put effort into fixing what is wrong with their nation, or stop waving their flag in America and start learning on what you must do to be a true, legit, American citizen. They basically randomly stop Mexicans and ask them for paperwork. NazisTough shit, I'm sorry? Its common knowledge that most illegal immigrants come from the Southern border.. and more common knowledge that the vast majority are of hispanic descent. Now if they pull a car over and hear nothing but Spanish talk, or maybe poorly spoken English, that's enough to suspect something in my opinion. Yes, that isn't fair, but an investigation should still be made..So we should "investigate" people for the way they look and talk even though they're doing absolutely nothing illegal? How would you like that? You wouldn't, but you don't care because you'll never have to experience that. QuoteWe don't want an uninsured illegal get in a car wreck, then sue and somehow win the law suit. <—Which that is much easier to pull off in guess what state? California ; PIs that so? Proof?The proof is what you hear among the common folk of the state and the states next to them. You won't hear that on the news, because they think they are better by covering stories that are far less important.So racist shit people say. Cool beans. QuoteYou're right, I won't have that problem, why? Because I was born and raised here, I speak the NATIVE language perfectly (Even though my last name is a Foreign last name and very uncommon) and know the laws of the land, that I know suing someone else for my own stupidity would be wrong and is not justifiable.Many Mexicans speak English ans Spanish. Why can't they speak Spanish? Is it illegal to speak Spanish? You're for taking away the freedom to speak whatever language you want to speak in America?And English isn't the native language to America. At all. QuoteIF I did have that problem, perhaps I would re-adjust my behavior to lessen the possibility of that to occur. I wouldn't have my windows rolled down, playing pure hispanic music as loud as I can at midnight in a neighborhood.What? These people are stopped in broad day doing absolutely nothing to disturb the peace or breaking any laws.And even if they were playing music too loud at midnight, the police have no other duty other than telling them to lower the volume. What the hell does it matter if it's hispanic music? If they played country music that'd be fine?QuoteTrue my Grandfather was a low-life and came here illegally, but one of the few things he did do right was that he worked hard and earned his citizenship legally and legitimately.Because Mexicans that cross the border illegally don't come to America and work hard and try to earn citizenship? Who in the fuck are you, the grandchild of an illegal immigrant, to say others shouldn't do what your grandfather did? Don't you see you're the proof that illegal immigrants aren't actually some sort of terrible problem the GOP makes them out to be?Fucking hell. How can you hate people who are trying to lead better lives and love America as much as or possibly more than you do? Do you know how many Mexicans try to join the military and get turned away when they realize they don't have paperwork? Patriots denied the chance to give the ultimate thing back to their country because they love it so much: life.You sound mad bro. Wake up dude, seriously."HURR DURR u mad bro I have no rebuttal because I know I'm wrong"You wake the fuck up and stop hating your brother because he speaks a different language and has a different skin color.
Quote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 04:07:29 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:49:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 03:42:54 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:39:46 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 03:30:11 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:26:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 07:54:41 AMQuote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 15, 2015, 07:10:14 AMQuote from: challengerX on March 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PMAlright...No right to work lawsAbsurdly high state income taxRent control NYC eminent domain regulations disproportionately favor developers over homeownersFunding for worker's comp is severely restrictedNon-group coverage is nearly a nonexistent option due to state over regulationStop and FriskTobbaco policy even more restrictive than Pennsylvania's own"Motor Vehicle Law Enforcement Fee"I didn't even touche firearm policy or California.I don't see how people have less freedom due to these laws. They're bad things to be sure, but they don't restrict freedom. The exception being Stop and Frisk. But seeing how Arizona has Nazi police that ask you for your paperwork, your argument is moot.I've never had a problem like that with them or heard of that, maybe that is just close to the border? And perhaps if you have reasonable suspicion that they might be in this country illegally, they have a duty to investigate. After all.. Police are there to enforce laws and investigate. I don't want people here illegally. The only exception I would make to house illegals is if there is a disgusting war plaguing their nation or genocide.. Otherwise, they need to put effort into fixing what is wrong with their nation, or stop waving their flag in America and start learning on what you must do to be a true, legit, American citizen. They basically randomly stop Mexicans and ask them for paperwork. NazisTough shit, I'm sorry? Its common knowledge that most illegal immigrants come from the Southern border.. and more common knowledge that the vast majority are of hispanic descent. Now if they pull a car over and hear nothing but Spanish talk, or maybe poorly spoken English, that's enough to suspect something in my opinion. Yes, that isn't fair, but an investigation should still be made..So we should "investigate" people for the way they look and talk even though they're doing absolutely nothing illegal? How would you like that? You wouldn't, but you don't care because you'll never have to experience that. QuoteWe don't want an uninsured illegal get in a car wreck, then sue and somehow win the law suit. <—Which that is much easier to pull off in guess what state? California ; PIs that so? Proof?The proof is what you hear among the common folk of the state and the states next to them. You won't hear that on the news, because they think they are better by covering stories that are far less important.So racist shit people say. Cool beans. QuoteYou're right, I won't have that problem, why? Because I was born and raised here, I speak the NATIVE language perfectly (Even though my last name is a Foreign last name and very uncommon) and know the laws of the land, that I know suing someone else for my own stupidity would be wrong and is not justifiable.Many Mexicans speak English ans Spanish. Why can't they speak Spanish? Is it illegal to speak Spanish? You're for taking away the freedom to speak whatever language you want to speak in America?And English isn't the native language to America. At all. QuoteIF I did have that problem, perhaps I would re-adjust my behavior to lessen the possibility of that to occur. I wouldn't have my windows rolled down, playing pure hispanic music as loud as I can at midnight in a neighborhood.What? These people are stopped in broad day doing absolutely nothing to disturb the peace or breaking any laws.And even if they were playing music too loud at midnight, the police have no other duty other than telling them to lower the volume. What the hell does it matter if it's hispanic music? If they played country music that'd be fine?QuoteTrue my Grandfather was a low-life and came here illegally, but one of the few things he did do right was that he worked hard and earned his citizenship legally and legitimately.Because Mexicans that cross the border illegally don't come to America and work hard and try to earn citizenship? Who in the fuck are you, the grandchild of an illegal immigrant, to say others shouldn't do what your grandfather did? Don't you see you're the proof that illegal immigrants aren't actually some sort of terrible problem the GOP makes them out to be?Fucking hell. How can you hate people who are trying to lead better lives and love America as much as or possibly more than you do? Do you know how many Mexicans try to join the military and get turned away when they realize they don't have paperwork? Patriots denied the chance to give the ultimate thing back to their country because they love it so much: life.You sound mad bro. Wake up dude, seriously.
Quote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:49:44 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 03:42:54 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:39:46 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 03:30:11 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:26:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 07:54:41 AMQuote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 15, 2015, 07:10:14 AMQuote from: challengerX on March 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PMAlright...No right to work lawsAbsurdly high state income taxRent control NYC eminent domain regulations disproportionately favor developers over homeownersFunding for worker's comp is severely restrictedNon-group coverage is nearly a nonexistent option due to state over regulationStop and FriskTobbaco policy even more restrictive than Pennsylvania's own"Motor Vehicle Law Enforcement Fee"I didn't even touche firearm policy or California.I don't see how people have less freedom due to these laws. They're bad things to be sure, but they don't restrict freedom. The exception being Stop and Frisk. But seeing how Arizona has Nazi police that ask you for your paperwork, your argument is moot.I've never had a problem like that with them or heard of that, maybe that is just close to the border? And perhaps if you have reasonable suspicion that they might be in this country illegally, they have a duty to investigate. After all.. Police are there to enforce laws and investigate. I don't want people here illegally. The only exception I would make to house illegals is if there is a disgusting war plaguing their nation or genocide.. Otherwise, they need to put effort into fixing what is wrong with their nation, or stop waving their flag in America and start learning on what you must do to be a true, legit, American citizen. They basically randomly stop Mexicans and ask them for paperwork. NazisTough shit, I'm sorry? Its common knowledge that most illegal immigrants come from the Southern border.. and more common knowledge that the vast majority are of hispanic descent. Now if they pull a car over and hear nothing but Spanish talk, or maybe poorly spoken English, that's enough to suspect something in my opinion. Yes, that isn't fair, but an investigation should still be made..So we should "investigate" people for the way they look and talk even though they're doing absolutely nothing illegal? How would you like that? You wouldn't, but you don't care because you'll never have to experience that. QuoteWe don't want an uninsured illegal get in a car wreck, then sue and somehow win the law suit. <—Which that is much easier to pull off in guess what state? California ; PIs that so? Proof?The proof is what you hear among the common folk of the state and the states next to them. You won't hear that on the news, because they think they are better by covering stories that are far less important.So racist shit people say. Cool beans. QuoteYou're right, I won't have that problem, why? Because I was born and raised here, I speak the NATIVE language perfectly (Even though my last name is a Foreign last name and very uncommon) and know the laws of the land, that I know suing someone else for my own stupidity would be wrong and is not justifiable.Many Mexicans speak English ans Spanish. Why can't they speak Spanish? Is it illegal to speak Spanish? You're for taking away the freedom to speak whatever language you want to speak in America?And English isn't the native language to America. At all. QuoteIF I did have that problem, perhaps I would re-adjust my behavior to lessen the possibility of that to occur. I wouldn't have my windows rolled down, playing pure hispanic music as loud as I can at midnight in a neighborhood.What? These people are stopped in broad day doing absolutely nothing to disturb the peace or breaking any laws.And even if they were playing music too loud at midnight, the police have no other duty other than telling them to lower the volume. What the hell does it matter if it's hispanic music? If they played country music that'd be fine?QuoteTrue my Grandfather was a low-life and came here illegally, but one of the few things he did do right was that he worked hard and earned his citizenship legally and legitimately.Because Mexicans that cross the border illegally don't come to America and work hard and try to earn citizenship? Who in the fuck are you, the grandchild of an illegal immigrant, to say others shouldn't do what your grandfather did? Don't you see you're the proof that illegal immigrants aren't actually some sort of terrible problem the GOP makes them out to be?Fucking hell. How can you hate people who are trying to lead better lives and love America as much as or possibly more than you do? Do you know how many Mexicans try to join the military and get turned away when they realize they don't have paperwork? Patriots denied the chance to give the ultimate thing back to their country because they love it so much: life.
Quote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 03:42:54 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:39:46 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 03:30:11 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:26:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 07:54:41 AMQuote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 15, 2015, 07:10:14 AMQuote from: challengerX on March 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PMAlright...No right to work lawsAbsurdly high state income taxRent control NYC eminent domain regulations disproportionately favor developers over homeownersFunding for worker's comp is severely restrictedNon-group coverage is nearly a nonexistent option due to state over regulationStop and FriskTobbaco policy even more restrictive than Pennsylvania's own"Motor Vehicle Law Enforcement Fee"I didn't even touche firearm policy or California.I don't see how people have less freedom due to these laws. They're bad things to be sure, but they don't restrict freedom. The exception being Stop and Frisk. But seeing how Arizona has Nazi police that ask you for your paperwork, your argument is moot.I've never had a problem like that with them or heard of that, maybe that is just close to the border? And perhaps if you have reasonable suspicion that they might be in this country illegally, they have a duty to investigate. After all.. Police are there to enforce laws and investigate. I don't want people here illegally. The only exception I would make to house illegals is if there is a disgusting war plaguing their nation or genocide.. Otherwise, they need to put effort into fixing what is wrong with their nation, or stop waving their flag in America and start learning on what you must do to be a true, legit, American citizen. They basically randomly stop Mexicans and ask them for paperwork. NazisTough shit, I'm sorry? Its common knowledge that most illegal immigrants come from the Southern border.. and more common knowledge that the vast majority are of hispanic descent. Now if they pull a car over and hear nothing but Spanish talk, or maybe poorly spoken English, that's enough to suspect something in my opinion. Yes, that isn't fair, but an investigation should still be made..So we should "investigate" people for the way they look and talk even though they're doing absolutely nothing illegal? How would you like that? You wouldn't, but you don't care because you'll never have to experience that. QuoteWe don't want an uninsured illegal get in a car wreck, then sue and somehow win the law suit. <—Which that is much easier to pull off in guess what state? California ; PIs that so? Proof?The proof is what you hear among the common folk of the state and the states next to them. You won't hear that on the news, because they think they are better by covering stories that are far less important.
Quote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:39:46 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 03:30:11 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:26:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 07:54:41 AMQuote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 15, 2015, 07:10:14 AMQuote from: challengerX on March 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PMAlright...No right to work lawsAbsurdly high state income taxRent control NYC eminent domain regulations disproportionately favor developers over homeownersFunding for worker's comp is severely restrictedNon-group coverage is nearly a nonexistent option due to state over regulationStop and FriskTobbaco policy even more restrictive than Pennsylvania's own"Motor Vehicle Law Enforcement Fee"I didn't even touche firearm policy or California.I don't see how people have less freedom due to these laws. They're bad things to be sure, but they don't restrict freedom. The exception being Stop and Frisk. But seeing how Arizona has Nazi police that ask you for your paperwork, your argument is moot.I've never had a problem like that with them or heard of that, maybe that is just close to the border? And perhaps if you have reasonable suspicion that they might be in this country illegally, they have a duty to investigate. After all.. Police are there to enforce laws and investigate. I don't want people here illegally. The only exception I would make to house illegals is if there is a disgusting war plaguing their nation or genocide.. Otherwise, they need to put effort into fixing what is wrong with their nation, or stop waving their flag in America and start learning on what you must do to be a true, legit, American citizen. They basically randomly stop Mexicans and ask them for paperwork. NazisTough shit, I'm sorry? Its common knowledge that most illegal immigrants come from the Southern border.. and more common knowledge that the vast majority are of hispanic descent. Now if they pull a car over and hear nothing but Spanish talk, or maybe poorly spoken English, that's enough to suspect something in my opinion. Yes, that isn't fair, but an investigation should still be made..So we should "investigate" people for the way they look and talk even though they're doing absolutely nothing illegal? How would you like that? You wouldn't, but you don't care because you'll never have to experience that. QuoteWe don't want an uninsured illegal get in a car wreck, then sue and somehow win the law suit. <—Which that is much easier to pull off in guess what state? California ; PIs that so? Proof?
Quote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 03:30:11 PMQuote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:26:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 07:54:41 AMQuote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 15, 2015, 07:10:14 AMQuote from: challengerX on March 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PMAlright...No right to work lawsAbsurdly high state income taxRent control NYC eminent domain regulations disproportionately favor developers over homeownersFunding for worker's comp is severely restrictedNon-group coverage is nearly a nonexistent option due to state over regulationStop and FriskTobbaco policy even more restrictive than Pennsylvania's own"Motor Vehicle Law Enforcement Fee"I didn't even touche firearm policy or California.I don't see how people have less freedom due to these laws. They're bad things to be sure, but they don't restrict freedom. The exception being Stop and Frisk. But seeing how Arizona has Nazi police that ask you for your paperwork, your argument is moot.I've never had a problem like that with them or heard of that, maybe that is just close to the border? And perhaps if you have reasonable suspicion that they might be in this country illegally, they have a duty to investigate. After all.. Police are there to enforce laws and investigate. I don't want people here illegally. The only exception I would make to house illegals is if there is a disgusting war plaguing their nation or genocide.. Otherwise, they need to put effort into fixing what is wrong with their nation, or stop waving their flag in America and start learning on what you must do to be a true, legit, American citizen. They basically randomly stop Mexicans and ask them for paperwork. NazisTough shit, I'm sorry? Its common knowledge that most illegal immigrants come from the Southern border.. and more common knowledge that the vast majority are of hispanic descent. Now if they pull a car over and hear nothing but Spanish talk, or maybe poorly spoken English, that's enough to suspect something in my opinion. Yes, that isn't fair, but an investigation should still be made..
Quote from: Forgewolf on March 15, 2015, 03:26:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 07:54:41 AMQuote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 15, 2015, 07:10:14 AMQuote from: challengerX on March 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PMAlright...No right to work lawsAbsurdly high state income taxRent control NYC eminent domain regulations disproportionately favor developers over homeownersFunding for worker's comp is severely restrictedNon-group coverage is nearly a nonexistent option due to state over regulationStop and FriskTobbaco policy even more restrictive than Pennsylvania's own"Motor Vehicle Law Enforcement Fee"I didn't even touche firearm policy or California.I don't see how people have less freedom due to these laws. They're bad things to be sure, but they don't restrict freedom. The exception being Stop and Frisk. But seeing how Arizona has Nazi police that ask you for your paperwork, your argument is moot.I've never had a problem like that with them or heard of that, maybe that is just close to the border? And perhaps if you have reasonable suspicion that they might be in this country illegally, they have a duty to investigate. After all.. Police are there to enforce laws and investigate. I don't want people here illegally. The only exception I would make to house illegals is if there is a disgusting war plaguing their nation or genocide.. Otherwise, they need to put effort into fixing what is wrong with their nation, or stop waving their flag in America and start learning on what you must do to be a true, legit, American citizen. They basically randomly stop Mexicans and ask them for paperwork. Nazis
Quote from: challengerX on March 15, 2015, 07:54:41 AMQuote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 15, 2015, 07:10:14 AMQuote from: challengerX on March 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PMAlright...No right to work lawsAbsurdly high state income taxRent control NYC eminent domain regulations disproportionately favor developers over homeownersFunding for worker's comp is severely restrictedNon-group coverage is nearly a nonexistent option due to state over regulationStop and FriskTobbaco policy even more restrictive than Pennsylvania's own"Motor Vehicle Law Enforcement Fee"I didn't even touche firearm policy or California.I don't see how people have less freedom due to these laws. They're bad things to be sure, but they don't restrict freedom. The exception being Stop and Frisk. But seeing how Arizona has Nazi police that ask you for your paperwork, your argument is moot.I've never had a problem like that with them or heard of that, maybe that is just close to the border? And perhaps if you have reasonable suspicion that they might be in this country illegally, they have a duty to investigate. After all.. Police are there to enforce laws and investigate. I don't want people here illegally. The only exception I would make to house illegals is if there is a disgusting war plaguing their nation or genocide.. Otherwise, they need to put effort into fixing what is wrong with their nation, or stop waving their flag in America and start learning on what you must do to be a true, legit, American citizen.
Quote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 15, 2015, 07:10:14 AMQuote from: challengerX on March 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PMAlright...No right to work lawsAbsurdly high state income taxRent control NYC eminent domain regulations disproportionately favor developers over homeownersFunding for worker's comp is severely restrictedNon-group coverage is nearly a nonexistent option due to state over regulationStop and FriskTobbaco policy even more restrictive than Pennsylvania's own"Motor Vehicle Law Enforcement Fee"I didn't even touche firearm policy or California.I don't see how people have less freedom due to these laws. They're bad things to be sure, but they don't restrict freedom. The exception being Stop and Frisk. But seeing how Arizona has Nazi police that ask you for your paperwork, your argument is moot.
Quote from: challengerX on March 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PMAlright...No right to work lawsAbsurdly high state income taxRent control NYC eminent domain regulations disproportionately favor developers over homeownersFunding for worker's comp is severely restrictedNon-group coverage is nearly a nonexistent option due to state over regulationStop and FriskTobbaco policy even more restrictive than Pennsylvania's own"Motor Vehicle Law Enforcement Fee"I didn't even touche firearm policy or California.
We don't want an uninsured illegal get in a car wreck, then sue and somehow win the law suit. <—Which that is much easier to pull off in guess what state? California ; P
You're right, I won't have that problem, why? Because I was born and raised here, I speak the NATIVE language perfectly (Even though my last name is a Foreign last name and very uncommon) and know the laws of the land, that I know suing someone else for my own stupidity would be wrong and is not justifiable.
IF I did have that problem, perhaps I would re-adjust my behavior to lessen the possibility of that to occur. I wouldn't have my windows rolled down, playing pure hispanic music as loud as I can at midnight in a neighborhood.
True my Grandfather was a low-life and came here illegally, but one of the few things he did do right was that he worked hard and earned his citizenship legally and legitimately.
Government has shown that it cannot stop the very things your comic depicted, no matter how much power they're given.
And to say that I want human trafficking just because I don't believe a single entity should have unlimited power over a piece of land would be like me saying that you want millions of people to get slaughtered because you want a government.
I can understand your wanting a semblance of order, but there are nonviolent, voluntary ways of accomplishing that that do not involve a state.
But an absence of basic governance has proven these things to flourish. You only have to look at Somalia, probably the most freest nation on the world, to attest to that.
There is a difference between wanting as much economic, political and social freedom as possible and still have a regulatory body
But I'm not wrong though. Without at least a semblance of regulation the possibility of a human trafficking market will open up. That is after all, what the free market does best.
I'm really beginning to notice these patterns of strawman amongst voluntaryists. "NO MADDA WHAD THE GUBMENT DUS DER WILL ALWAYS BE MUHDA AND RAYP." Yeah, no shit. I fail to see how that warrants abolition though.
QuoteI can understand your wanting a semblance of order, but there are nonviolent, voluntary ways of accomplishing that that do not involve a state.That is a pipe dream at best.
As a society, Somalia has actually improved since dismantling its central government.
Regulatory bodies can exist without a centralized monopoly on violence.
There's already a human trafficking market, if you haven't noticed. In fact, it's one of the fastest growing businesses among transnational criminal organizations.
If you're going to make the claim that Somalia is anarchy I'll play along with this response.
Somalia has never committed mass genocide.
Somalia has never nuked a city.
Somalia has never invaded a country thousands of miles away, overthrown its government, and tried to install a democratic government.
Somalia has never caused a coup.
You know why? Because there's no money to be made from nuking a country.
There's no money to be made from overthrowing a government.
There's no money to be made from committing mass genocide.
This is going to get slapped down faster than a woman outside the kitchen.
holy christ this turned into a clusterfuck. do you people really have nothing better to do than sling shit at each other in the serious board? wheres the substantive discourse? all i see is a bunch of people tripping over their own rhetoric and failing to provide meaningful sources for bold claims.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 16, 2015, 10:43:18 AMholy christ this turned into a clusterfuck. do you people really have nothing better to do than sling shit at each other in the serious board? wheres the substantive discourse? all i see is a bunch of people tripping over their own rhetoric and failing to provide meaningful sources for bold claims.I'm enjoying this civilized debate with BrenMan actually.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 16, 2015, 10:57:21 AMQuote from: Azumarill on March 16, 2015, 10:43:18 AMholy christ this turned into a clusterfuck. do you people really have nothing better to do than sling shit at each other in the serious board? wheres the substantive discourse? all i see is a bunch of people tripping over their own rhetoric and failing to provide meaningful sources for bold claims.I'm enjoying this civilized debate with BrenMan actually.try debating like that in any formal forensics competition and youd be laughed out of the building.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 16, 2015, 11:04:26 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 16, 2015, 10:57:21 AMQuote from: Azumarill on March 16, 2015, 10:43:18 AMholy christ this turned into a clusterfuck. do you people really have nothing better to do than sling shit at each other in the serious board? wheres the substantive discourse? all i see is a bunch of people tripping over their own rhetoric and failing to provide meaningful sources for bold claims.I'm enjoying this civilized debate with BrenMan actually.try debating like that in any formal forensics competition and youd be laughed out of the building.>the guy who strawmans till the cows come home and misinterprets the opposition's position is lecturing me on how to argue betterAnd I thought I'd seen it all.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 16, 2015, 11:30:24 AMQuote from: Azumarill on March 16, 2015, 11:04:26 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 16, 2015, 10:57:21 AMQuote from: Azumarill on March 16, 2015, 10:43:18 AMholy christ this turned into a clusterfuck. do you people really have nothing better to do than sling shit at each other in the serious board? wheres the substantive discourse? all i see is a bunch of people tripping over their own rhetoric and failing to provide meaningful sources for bold claims.I'm enjoying this civilized debate with BrenMan actually.try debating like that in any formal forensics competition and youd be laughed out of the building.>the guy who strawmans till the cows come home and misinterprets the opposition's position is lecturing me on how to argue betterAnd I thought I'd seen it all.mmmmm, jimmies still rustled i see
Quote from: Azumarill on March 16, 2015, 11:35:32 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 16, 2015, 11:30:24 AMQuote from: Azumarill on March 16, 2015, 11:04:26 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 16, 2015, 10:57:21 AMQuote from: Azumarill on March 16, 2015, 10:43:18 AMholy christ this turned into a clusterfuck. do you people really have nothing better to do than sling shit at each other in the serious board? wheres the substantive discourse? all i see is a bunch of people tripping over their own rhetoric and failing to provide meaningful sources for bold claims.I'm enjoying this civilized debate with BrenMan actually.try debating like that in any formal forensics competition and youd be laughed out of the building.>the guy who strawmans till the cows come home and misinterprets the opposition's position is lecturing me on how to argue betterAnd I thought I'd seen it all.mmmmm, jimmies still rustled i see>using a three year old plebbit maymayBut no matter how you look at it, it's just trash.
Arizona declaring independence from executive orders
