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Are you okay with corporations data mining your personal information?

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>Ignores part of my post where I point out that good people make honest mistakes
You edited that in, shithead.

It's pretty goddamn easy to tell between an accident and an actual purposeful act.

No shit I did, because it was a good point. It was your failure to pick up on it.

And no, no it isn't. The world is not so black and white. There's a fuck ton of gray. Do you even go outside?


 
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No shit I did, because it was a good point. It was your failure to pick up on it.
I was in the process of responding before you edited it in.

Precisely how many times were you dropped on the head as a baby?
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And no, no it isn't. The world is not so black and white. There's a fuck ton of gray. Do you even go outside?
That had a lot to do with what I said. Thanks.

"MUH GRAY"

Concrete examples. Now.
Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 09:20:34 PM by Verbatim


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2. Don't use social media

-You're frequenting a forum (social media) that you can't remove your time-stamped posts other than by editing them to be blank, and lacks https security encryption.

So yeah you can use a vpn and all that, but it's easier for big brother to monitor your online activity here, and I'm pretty sure they can calculate based off of your online activities at least pin point your timezone.

You can't always elude data mining, or so it seems.

edit: that's why the ads become creepy.
Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 09:21:34 PM by Kitsunekun


 
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2. Don't use social media

-You're frequenting a forum (social media) that you can't remove your time-stamped posts other than by editing them to be blank, and lacks https security encryption.

So yeah you can use a vpn and all that, but it's easier for big brother to monitor your online activity here, and I'm pretty sure they can calculate based off of your online activities at least pin point your timezone.

You can't always elude data mining, or so it seems.
1. This forum is not social media

2. This account is not in any way connected to any of my personal info

"so·cial me·di·a
noun
websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking."

I never said your personal info I said your timezone.


 
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2. This account is not in any way connected to any of my personal info
Your IP address is available to the staff, and you have your state of living on display. As well as your age.

Unless you're lying/constantly using McDonald's Wi-Fi.


 
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male, he/him

dracula can eat my whole ass!
Tbh I doubt the NSA cares about a depressed Canadian reject like myself


 
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1. VPN at all times

2. Oklahoma is a big fucking state with a lot of 19 year olds
*shrug*

You said any.


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2. This account is not in any way connected to any of my personal info
Your IP address is available to the staff, and you have your state of living on display. As well as your age.

Unless you're lying/constantly using McDonald's Wi-Fi.

If he's using a VPN that's what IP address would be on file, because the VPN conceals his actual IP address.


 
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If he's using a VPN that's what IP address would be on file, because the VPN conceals his actual IP address.
I see.


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No shit I did, because it was a good point. It was your failure to pick up on it.
I was in the process of responding before you edited it in.

Precisely how many times were you dropped on the head as a baby?
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And no, no it isn't. The world is not so black and white. There's a fuck ton of gray. Do you even go outside?
That had a lot to do with what I said. Thanks.

"MUH GRAY"

Concrete examples. Now.

Of course you would talk about dropping babies, you baby hater.

Concrete examples? Look for yourself, the world is full of 'em. It's not my job to do your research.


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The source code really has nothing to do with it. 10 is just a variation of the NT kernel, and I have no doubt it's capable of stealing all of that. But there's no evidence it's being done.
Source code is relevant, though you're right, there's no evidence. But it's unlikely that MS is so incompetent that they'd just leave a backdoor open 24/7. There's no way of knowing either way, at least with what little public information there is available right now.

You're telling me my operating system can detect software on the hard disk it's running off of?
And send that information back to mother base unencrypted, which presents numerous security problems in and of itself.

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No shit, man. And it absolutely should disable pirated software, that poses a security risk to the user and is also illegal.
Okay, mom. (It's a bit concerning that you think MS should institute a nanny state. Assuming it really is a capability of Windows 10, it'd be another 'feature' tantamount to a backdoor that opens the door to abuse, not necessarily by Microsoft or the US government, but by ill-intentioned third parties. All backdoors are inherently security flaws that compromise the integrity of that system.)
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>"i care about my privacy because i don't wanna get in trouble for all the shit i pirated on the internet!!"

Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 09:45:16 PM by Verbatim


 
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Concrete examples? Look for yourself, the world is full of 'em. It's not my job to do your research.
>says retarded shit
>expects me to buy it on face value
>"uh, do you have anything to back up or support what you're saying here?"
>>"IT'S NOT MY JOB TO DO YOUR RESEARCH"

All right--allow me to just assume you're the raving lunatic you are, then.

This is why no one takes you seriously.
Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 09:50:29 PM by Verbatim


 
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I'm sure all the pusillanimous pro-privacy pussies are just thrilled to have aTALLmidget on their side.


 
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Let's stray away from attacking people personally ITT. We don't want this to turn into a slinging fest.


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I just wanted to run this little survey because I feel like the biggest downfall in the battle of this malicious practice done by corporations like Microsoft and Google is that people are totally okay with them doing it. Also for discussion value just general thoughts on data mining and privacy invasion practices done by software corporations.

Hey Slash. We are all already fucked. There is a file with your name on it at the NSA

Better start faking your own death and discontinue your internet access entirely and live in the woods for the rest of your life if you don't want to be apart of it.

Everyone's privacy is already fucked.


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Concrete examples? Look for yourself, the world is full of 'em. It's not my job to do your research.
>says retarded shit
>expects me to buy it on face value
>"uh, do you have anything to back up or support what you're saying here?"
>>"IT'S NOT MY JOB TO DO YOUR RESEARCH"

All right--allow me to just assume you're the raving lunatic you are, then.

This is why no one takes you seriously.

What about it is retarded, exactly? Everything I've said is infallible while, once again, you pull opinions out of your ass and tote them as solid facts. "HURRR ITS SO EASY TO TELL BAD MISTAKES FROM HONEST MISTAKES LOL", "HURRR PRIVACY ISN'T IMPORTANT FUCKING LOL THERE'S NO BAD THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT IF PEOPLE KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU DERP ROFL"

The fact that you need "substantial proof" that the world is 50 shades of grey rather than starkly black and white (which is how immature, ignorant people view it) is asinine. Try living in the real world for a few seconds and you'll see exactly how gray it is.

And lol, I'm taken very seriously. Nice try on belittling me, though


 
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I just wanted to run this little survey because I feel like the biggest downfall in the battle of this malicious practice done by corporations like Microsoft and Google is that people are totally okay with them doing it. Also for discussion value just general thoughts on data mining and privacy invasion practices done by software corporations.

Hey Slash. We are all already fucked. There is a file with your name on it at the NSA

Better start faking your own death and discontinue your internet access entirely and live in the woods for the rest of your life if you don't want to be apart of it.

Everyone's privacy is already fucked.
yeah obviously but i don't want to further their goals by just giving away my personal info and browsing data

Then close all your accounts and stop using their products and services. Switch to Linux and use Firefox.


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See you Cowgirl,
Someday, somewhere
I don't really care.

Apathy is a horrible trait.

The delusion that there is any sort of "right to privacy" is as well.

Oh, so because you don't believe in it means it should be irrelevant for blah blah blah

You demand interconnected services, fast and catered shopping and search results, and a highly personalized and dynamic experience, while expecting to retain control over that information. It's a fantasy. In order to provide these services, companies need databases, and those databases are populated with basic identity information and tons of metadata about users.
I don't need any of those things which is why I don't use any of those things.
You don't use free gmail, social media, forums, YouTube, shopping services, or search engines? Then what's all the bitching about?
That other people give into it so easily and are only perpetuating the problem.

as for services

1. ProtonMail

2. Don't use social media

3. I use fake info for YouTube and everything actually

4. I use DuckDuckGo which does not track

5. I run a VPN at all times on Linux
It's like you're extremely paranoid 24/7


 
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I just wanted to run this little survey because I feel like the biggest downfall in the battle of this malicious practice done by corporations like Microsoft and Google is that people are totally okay with them doing it. Also for discussion value just general thoughts on data mining and privacy invasion practices done by software corporations.

Hey Slash. We are all already fucked. There is a file with your name on it at the NSA

Better start faking your own death and discontinue your internet access entirely and live in the woods for the rest of your life if you don't want to be apart of it.

Everyone's privacy is already fucked.
yeah obviously but i don't want to further their goals by just giving away my personal info and browsing data

Then close all your accounts and stop using their products and services. Switch to Linux and use Firefox.
I do. I literally said that like twice in this thread.

Then what the fuck are you complaining about? If people don't want to do what you're doing when it comes to this shit, that's their choices, and for the record, Sep7 even has invisible tracking.


 
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herp derp
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Hmm...
Aight. Removed some rude and off-topic posts. Not trying to censor you guys; just make sure to attack the argument and not the people in the thread, k?


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
I'm happy with what I get compared to what I give them (i.e. Amazon knowing my address  and buying history so they can deliver my shit). That said, the EU has a bit more emphasis on privacy rights so I may have less to worry about (GCHQ be damned).

There's never going to be a point where I'm going to be retroactively charged for a  retarded crime created in the future (e.g. "It's illegal to own CD's", or something), so I have little to worry about. Should I ever decide to do something that is currently illegal and currently enforced, I'll start going anon like any other rational person would.

If it were the case that products were overstepping on what I give them without warning or my consent, then I'd make a fuss about it (once I figured out/they were found out), but they don't... so I don't worry.

Government spying and the like are a whole other matter.