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The more someone knows about me, the more danger it means for me.
Quote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:41:02 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:36:29 PMSo in other words, you're a corporate shill. But no matter how you twist it, it's still an invasion of privacy. You could literally apply the "you pay for it but it's not yours" to every item you purchase in existence. It's a poor excuse to invade into private information.It's not "private information" because you are not hosting the data. You are paying for the access, and for the ISP, to host everything you do. They host the data, they hold it's contents. As I said, if you don't like how those rules are you are always welcome to petition the Supreme Court to change the 4th Amendment:QuoteThe right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizuresNone of which covers the data ISP's have control over.That doesn't make it okay
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:36:29 PMSo in other words, you're a corporate shill. But no matter how you twist it, it's still an invasion of privacy. You could literally apply the "you pay for it but it's not yours" to every item you purchase in existence. It's a poor excuse to invade into private information.It's not "private information" because you are not hosting the data. You are paying for the access, and for the ISP, to host everything you do. They host the data, they hold it's contents. As I said, if you don't like how those rules are you are always welcome to petition the Supreme Court to change the 4th Amendment:QuoteThe right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizuresNone of which covers the data ISP's have control over.
So in other words, you're a corporate shill. But no matter how you twist it, it's still an invasion of privacy. You could literally apply the "you pay for it but it's not yours" to every item you purchase in existence. It's a poor excuse to invade into private information.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:39:24 PMThe more someone knows about me, the more danger it means for me.If you're insane, and paranoid. And stupid.Just because you are all of these things doesn't mean that I am. There is no reason I should care about my privacy.
And stop using "HURRRRR PETITION SCOTUS LOL" as if it's fucking easy for any average person to do.
Doesn't really matter since people like you and Turkey exist and make up the general population.
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:44:33 PMAnd stop using "HURRRRR PETITION SCOTUS LOL" as if it's fucking easy for any average person to do.But it isIf an 83 year old could do it, you have no god damn excuse.
And I'm done here. Continue the circle jerk of "Lol Right to Privacy" when you both know that there are plenty of methods you can do to make a difference if you so choose.Complaining here is not one.
If you agree to provide information in exchange for access to the service (which is nearly always outlined in the T&C or a similarly binding agreement), then you should have no issue with it taking place. They aren't removing your right to privacy, you're selling it in the name of comfort.
Quote from: Prime CIA on August 28, 2015, 08:52:13 PMIf you agree to provide information in exchange for access to the service (which is nearly always outlined in the T&C or a similarly binding agreement), then you should have no issue with it taking place. They aren't removing your right to privacy, you're selling it in the name of comfort.Then there should be clearly a different method of exchange.
I mean, I fucking HATE corporations, too.But this is the least malicious thing about them. By far.
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:51:43 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:50:25 PMAnd I'm done here. Continue the circle jerk of "Lol Right to Privacy" when you both know that there are plenty of methods you can do to make a difference if you so choose.Complaining here is not one.K bye bye, have fun shilling out to corporations and a corrupt government. They sure do love all the obedient pawns who willingly give over all their private info AND polish their shoes.Do people shine shoes anymore?
Quote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:50:25 PMAnd I'm done here. Continue the circle jerk of "Lol Right to Privacy" when you both know that there are plenty of methods you can do to make a difference if you so choose.Complaining here is not one.K bye bye, have fun shilling out to corporations and a corrupt government. They sure do love all the obedient pawns who willingly give over all their private info AND polish their shoes.
It's probably one of the most malicious things, actually. Do you not understand that information is power? As in, it's a lot of power.
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:56:23 PMIt's probably one of the most malicious things, actually. Do you not understand that information is power? As in, it's a lot of power.Not if the information boils down to, "This person follows all the rules of society."Which it would.
Doesn't matter, the information can change. There are countless variables at work all the time. First, it shows someone "following all the rules of society". Oh but after some time, the person fucks up. And now that appears. There are dynamics to everything. It's not so linear as you think.
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 09:00:39 PMDoesn't matter, the information can change. There are countless variables at work all the time. First, it shows someone "following all the rules of society". Oh but after some time, the person fucks up. And now that appears. There are dynamics to everything. It's not so linear as you think.If you fuck up in life, you deserve every repercussion that would come your way.
Also the whole "well you're using free software so they have the right to datamine you."That's the fucking shitties excuse ever. Linux is free and doesn't datamine
But it's not for a corporation to decide, nor know about. Having that info stored away, ready to be pulled out and used for smear material should ever that person become a threat, is sickening.
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 09:04:02 PMBut it's not for a corporation to decide, nor know about. Having that info stored away, ready to be pulled out and used for smear material should ever that person become a threat, is sickening.Not really, no.>Be a good person>Never have to worry about being "smeared"
>Ignores part of my post where I point out that good people make honest mistakes