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I don't really care.
Quote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 07:09:37 PMI don't really care.Apathy is a horrible trait.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:24:40 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:22:04 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:15:58 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:14:21 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:05:36 PMIf I continue to demand free services then I don't really have an issue with something as benign as sharing my browsing or shopping trends.But what about Windows 10 scanning the contents of your local disk and Gmail keeping copies of all your emails? We're talking about practices that go way beyond browsing historyThat's not done, though. Not sure where you're getting your information, but clickbait news stories don't count.http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2013/aug/15/gmail-google-email-privacyhttp://money.cnn.com/2015/08/17/technology/windows-10-privacy/index.html"Windows 10 can scan your local disk and disable pirated software."You're telling me my operating system can detect software on the hard disk it's running off of? No shit, man. And it absolutely should disable pirated software, that poses a security risk to the user and is also illegal.Its also an invasion of privacy and nice job dodging the Gmail thing.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:22:04 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:15:58 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:14:21 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:05:36 PMIf I continue to demand free services then I don't really have an issue with something as benign as sharing my browsing or shopping trends.But what about Windows 10 scanning the contents of your local disk and Gmail keeping copies of all your emails? We're talking about practices that go way beyond browsing historyThat's not done, though. Not sure where you're getting your information, but clickbait news stories don't count.http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2013/aug/15/gmail-google-email-privacyhttp://money.cnn.com/2015/08/17/technology/windows-10-privacy/index.html"Windows 10 can scan your local disk and disable pirated software."You're telling me my operating system can detect software on the hard disk it's running off of? No shit, man. And it absolutely should disable pirated software, that poses a security risk to the user and is also illegal.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:15:58 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:14:21 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:05:36 PMIf I continue to demand free services then I don't really have an issue with something as benign as sharing my browsing or shopping trends.But what about Windows 10 scanning the contents of your local disk and Gmail keeping copies of all your emails? We're talking about practices that go way beyond browsing historyThat's not done, though. Not sure where you're getting your information, but clickbait news stories don't count.http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2013/aug/15/gmail-google-email-privacyhttp://money.cnn.com/2015/08/17/technology/windows-10-privacy/index.html"Windows 10 can scan your local disk and disable pirated software."
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:14:21 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:05:36 PMIf I continue to demand free services then I don't really have an issue with something as benign as sharing my browsing or shopping trends.But what about Windows 10 scanning the contents of your local disk and Gmail keeping copies of all your emails? We're talking about practices that go way beyond browsing historyThat's not done, though. Not sure where you're getting your information, but clickbait news stories don't count.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:05:36 PMIf I continue to demand free services then I don't really have an issue with something as benign as sharing my browsing or shopping trends.But what about Windows 10 scanning the contents of your local disk and Gmail keeping copies of all your emails? We're talking about practices that go way beyond browsing history
If I continue to demand free services then I don't really have an issue with something as benign as sharing my browsing or shopping trends.
Quote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 08:24:13 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:22:49 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 08:19:44 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:13:16 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 08:05:05 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 07:51:51 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 07:44:13 PMI don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.do you have a gmail?Multipleare you aware all your emails are stored by Google and can be retrieved and read at any time by the NSA and other government organizations right?Okay it's not like I'm doing anything illegal, emails can be read by anyone. In florida you can request the state to release a complete record of someones emails to the public.So you'd be okay if someone opened your mailbox and started opening everything and reading it?All of my emails I literally use for school. If they want to see which classes I'm taking then I don't care.The contents don't really matter. Its still an invasion of privacy and if you're okay with it that just speaks to how fucked we truly are.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:22:49 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 08:19:44 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:13:16 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 08:05:05 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 07:51:51 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 07:44:13 PMI don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.do you have a gmail?Multipleare you aware all your emails are stored by Google and can be retrieved and read at any time by the NSA and other government organizations right?Okay it's not like I'm doing anything illegal, emails can be read by anyone. In florida you can request the state to release a complete record of someones emails to the public.So you'd be okay if someone opened your mailbox and started opening everything and reading it?All of my emails I literally use for school. If they want to see which classes I'm taking then I don't care.
Quote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 08:19:44 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:13:16 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 08:05:05 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 07:51:51 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 07:44:13 PMI don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.do you have a gmail?Multipleare you aware all your emails are stored by Google and can be retrieved and read at any time by the NSA and other government organizations right?Okay it's not like I'm doing anything illegal, emails can be read by anyone. In florida you can request the state to release a complete record of someones emails to the public.So you'd be okay if someone opened your mailbox and started opening everything and reading it?
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:13:16 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 08:05:05 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 07:51:51 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 07:44:13 PMI don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.do you have a gmail?Multipleare you aware all your emails are stored by Google and can be retrieved and read at any time by the NSA and other government organizations right?Okay it's not like I'm doing anything illegal, emails can be read by anyone. In florida you can request the state to release a complete record of someones emails to the public.
Quote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 08:05:05 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 07:51:51 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 07:44:13 PMI don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.do you have a gmail?Multipleare you aware all your emails are stored by Google and can be retrieved and read at any time by the NSA and other government organizations right?
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 07:51:51 PMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 07:44:13 PMI don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.do you have a gmail?Multiple
Quote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 07:44:13 PMI don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.do you have a gmail?
I don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:03:31 PMQuote from: Verbatim on August 28, 2015, 08:01:17 PMIt would be irrational to care about such minutiae.do we not have a right to privacy?You do, but I have absolutely no use for it.Because, uh, I'm not a criminal.
Quote from: Verbatim on August 28, 2015, 08:01:17 PMIt would be irrational to care about such minutiae.do we not have a right to privacy?
It would be irrational to care about such minutiae.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:24:40 PMAnd it absolutely should disable pirated software, that poses a security risk to the user and is also illegal.Calm down Stalin
And it absolutely should disable pirated software, that poses a security risk to the user and is also illegal.
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:26:35 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 07:09:37 PMI don't really care.Apathy is a horrible trait.The delusion that there is any sort of "right to privacy" is as well.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:28:31 PM First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.No one has any reason to "come for me".
Quote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:27:26 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:26:35 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 07:09:37 PMI don't really care.Apathy is a horrible trait.The delusion that there is any sort of "right to privacy" is as well.Oh, so because you don't believe in it means it should be irrelevant for everyone else.That's probably one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. Just so happens being retarded is a horrible trait, too.
Quote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:27:26 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:26:35 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 07:09:37 PMI don't really care.Apathy is a horrible trait.The delusion that there is any sort of "right to privacy" is as well.Oh, so because you don't believe in it means it should be irrelevant for blah blah blah
Quote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:32:16 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:30:13 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:27:26 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:26:35 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 07:09:37 PMI don't really care.Apathy is a horrible trait.The delusion that there is any sort of "right to privacy" is as well.Oh, so because you don't believe in it means it should be irrelevant for everyone else.That's probably one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. Just so happens being retarded is a horrible trait, too.Lol.The only "definition" of a right to privacy in the United States judicial system is the 4th Amendment - which does not apply to data mining because that data does not belong to you - it belongs to the ISP's that provide you access.If you are that afraid that you are being violated, the Internet is not a necessity. You chose to use it, you pay for access. What you do is not entitled to any sort of protection.Contents of my local disk and email do not belong to anyone. And you know it might also be that the 4th amendment was made when there wasn't even electricity and desperately needs to be updated.
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:30:13 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:27:26 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:26:35 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 07:09:37 PMI don't really care.Apathy is a horrible trait.The delusion that there is any sort of "right to privacy" is as well.Oh, so because you don't believe in it means it should be irrelevant for everyone else.That's probably one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. Just so happens being retarded is a horrible trait, too.Lol.The only "definition" of a right to privacy in the United States judicial system is the 4th Amendment - which does not apply to data mining because that data does not belong to you - it belongs to the ISP's that provide you access.If you are that afraid that you are being violated, the Internet is not a necessity. You chose to use it, you pay for access. What you do is not entitled to any sort of protection.
>Entirely missing the point of the quoteAre you really that dense?
Quote from: Verbatim on August 28, 2015, 08:06:06 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 08:03:31 PMQuote from: Verbatim on August 28, 2015, 08:01:17 PMIt would be irrational to care about such minutiae.do we not have a right to privacy?You do, but I have absolutely no use for it.Because, uh, I'm not a criminal. First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Quote from: Verbatim on August 28, 2015, 08:31:08 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:28:31 PM First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.No one has any reason to "come for me".>Entirely missing the point of the quoteAre you really that dense?
Quote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:32:16 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:30:13 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:27:26 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:26:35 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 07:09:37 PMI don't really care.Apathy is a horrible trait.The delusion that there is any sort of "right to privacy" is as well.Oh, so because you don't believe in it means it should be irrelevant for everyone else.That's probably one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. Just so happens being retarded is a horrible trait, too.Lol.The only "definition" of a right to privacy in the United States judicial system is the 4th Amendment - which does not apply to data mining because that data does not belong to you - it belongs to the ISP's that provide you access.If you are that afraid that you are being violated, the Internet is not a necessity. You chose to use it, you pay for access. What you do is not entitled to any sort of protection.Contents of my local disk and email do not belong to anyone.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on August 28, 2015, 08:33:51 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:30:13 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:27:26 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:26:35 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 07:09:37 PMI don't really care.Apathy is a horrible trait.The delusion that there is any sort of "right to privacy" is as well.Oh, so because you don't believe in it means it should be irrelevant for blah blah blahYou demand interconnected services, fast and catered shopping and search results, and a highly personalized and dynamic experience, while expecting to retain control over that information. It's a fantasy. In order to provide these services, companies need databases, and those databases are populated with basic identity information and tons of metadata about users.I don't need any of those things which is why I don't use any of those things.
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:30:13 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 08:27:26 PMQuote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:26:35 PMQuote from: Frigid Farts™ on August 28, 2015, 07:09:37 PMI don't really care.Apathy is a horrible trait.The delusion that there is any sort of "right to privacy" is as well.Oh, so because you don't believe in it means it should be irrelevant for blah blah blahYou demand interconnected services, fast and catered shopping and search results, and a highly personalized and dynamic experience, while expecting to retain control over that information. It's a fantasy. In order to provide these services, companies need databases, and those databases are populated with basic identity information and tons of metadata about users.
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on August 28, 2015, 08:31:47 PM>Entirely missing the point of the quoteAre you really that dense?The meaning of the quote does not apply in a discussion of privacy. At all.The only people who care about privacy are1. Criminals2. Scared children.
So in other words, you're a corporate shill. But no matter how you twist it, it's still an invasion of privacy. You could literally apply the "you pay for it but it's not yours" to every item you purchase in existence. It's a poor excuse to invade into private information.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures