Anti-Abortion demonstration and counter-protest at my University RN

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 10, 2015, 01:00:46 PM

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eggsalad · November 10, 2015, 01:07:35 PM

tfw ill never tell a pro-lifer i'd kill babies way after birth

DAS B00T x2 · November 10, 2015, 01:16:28 PM

Yo door, forty bucks if you go over there and stare at the pictures of dead babies while rubbing yourself through your pants.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 10, 2015, 02:45:19 PM

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ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 10, 2015, 02:46:47 PM

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ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 10, 2015, 02:54:16 PM

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Hahahaha very funny Zonda · November 10, 2015, 03:21:10 PM

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Alternative Facts · November 10, 2015, 03:49:13 PM

Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 02:54:16 PM

PEOPLE DIED FOR THIS.

I would hardly say that people died for you to say whatever you want.

challengerX · November 10, 2015, 04:26:06 PM

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Alternative Facts · November 10, 2015, 04:29:45 PM

Quote from: challengerX on November 10, 2015, 04:26:06 PM

Quote from: Fagcicle on November 10, 2015, 03:49:13 PM
Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
PEOPLE DIED FOR THIS.

I would hardly say that people died for you to say whatever you want.
And why is that?

Because there has never been a war that we fought in over "My right to say what I want!" It's always been about more pressing issues Revolution was about creating our own nation with representation that we lacked in the British government at the time, Civil War was about slavery and the divide between North and South, World Wars had nothing to do with speech, War on Terror is...not even sure what to describe it as.

At most, it's simply a nice right that was thrown in during out creation as a union and has become common in democracies.

Kitsune 狐 · November 10, 2015, 04:38:05 PM

Well at least it was the actual fetuses themselves. The Bodies exhibit in Altanta actually had fetuses on display. It was intense tbh.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 10, 2015, 04:39:49 PM

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Alternative Facts · November 10, 2015, 04:41:31 PM

Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 04:39:49 PM

Quote from: Fagcicle on November 10, 2015, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: challengerX on November 10, 2015, 04:26:06 PM
Quote from: Fagcicle on November 10, 2015, 03:49:13 PM
Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
PEOPLE DIED FOR THIS.

I would hardly say that people died for you to say whatever you want.
And why is that?

Because there has never been a war that we fought in over "My right to say what I want!" It's always been about more pressing issues Revolution was about creating our own nation with representation that we lacked in the British government at the time, Civil War was about slavery and the divide between North and South, World Wars had nothing to do with speech, War on Terror is...not even sure what to describe it as.

At most, it's simply a nice right that was thrown in during out creation as a union and has become common in democracies.

These people were killed because they exercised their right to freely express themselves.

Freedom of Expression =/= Freedom of Speech

There's quite a few important differences.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 10, 2015, 04:45:48 PM

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Winy · November 10, 2015, 04:47:36 PM

Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 01:00:46 PM

showing aborted fetus pictures hurts the cause more than it helps.

Good.

Alternative Facts · November 10, 2015, 04:48:42 PM

Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 04:45:48 PM

Quote from: Fagcicle on November 10, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: Fagcicle on November 10, 2015, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: challengerX on November 10, 2015, 04:26:06 PM
Quote from: Fagcicle on November 10, 2015, 03:49:13 PM
Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
PEOPLE DIED FOR THIS.

I would hardly say that people died for you to say whatever you want.
And why is that?

Because there has never been a war that we fought in over "My right to say what I want!" It's always been about more pressing issues Revolution was about creating our own nation with representation that we lacked in the British government at the time, Civil War was about slavery and the divide between North and South, World Wars had nothing to do with speech, War on Terror is...not even sure what to describe it as.

At most, it's simply a nice right that was thrown in during out creation as a union and has become common in democracies.

These people were killed because they exercised their right to freely express themselves.

Freedom of Expression =/= Freedom of Speech

There's quite a few important differences.
speech is a form of expression

And yet, they are two distinctly separate rights.

DAS B00T x2 · November 10, 2015, 04:49:29 PM

Quote from: Fagcicle on November 10, 2015, 04:41:31 PM

Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: Fagcicle on November 10, 2015, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: challengerX on November 10, 2015, 04:26:06 PM
Quote from: Fagcicle on November 10, 2015, 03:49:13 PM
Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
PEOPLE DIED FOR THIS.

I would hardly say that people died for you to say whatever you want.
And why is that?

Because there has never been a war that we fought in over "My right to say what I want!" It's always been about more pressing issues Revolution was about creating our own nation with representation that we lacked in the British government at the time, Civil War was about slavery and the divide between North and South, World Wars had nothing to do with speech, War on Terror is...not even sure what to describe it as.

At most, it's simply a nice right that was thrown in during out creation as a union and has become common in democracies.

These people were killed because they exercised their right to freely express themselves.

Freedom of Expression =/= Freedom of Speech

There's quite a few important differences.

Don't play this bullshit. They're upheld the same in our courts.
One is just defined to s specific medium.

Winy · November 10, 2015, 04:57:02 PM

Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 02:45:19 PM

I just snapped at a counter protestor. Really loudly.

Why

Pro-lifers deserved to be yelled at lmao

challengerX · November 10, 2015, 05:04:14 PM

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ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 10, 2015, 05:04:30 PM

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Winy · November 10, 2015, 05:06:39 PM

Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 05:04:30 PM

Quote from: Winy on November 10, 2015, 04:57:02 PM
Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 02:45:19 PM
I just snapped at a counter protestor. Really loudly.
Why

Pro-lifers deserved to be yelled at lmao
It wasn't over anti-abortion rhetoric.

This guy had a sign that said "Harmful speech is not free speech"

Oh, well that's different. In that case, yeah, he was a dumbass.

DAS B00T x2 · November 10, 2015, 05:07:36 PM

Door, you're in a liberal arts program. You should have expected to be surrounded by left wing fascists.

Thun · November 10, 2015, 05:09:30 PM

Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 05:04:30 PM

It wasn't over anti-abortion rhetoric.

This guy had a sign that said "Harmful speech is not free speech"

He was one of the loudest ones arguing people but I got him to talk to me for a second. I asked what his sign meant and he said freedom of speech and the first amendment were 200 years old and outdated

And I just snapped. I've never been so disgusted by something a person has said to me. I do my share of banter online but hearing a real live human being declare his right to free speech outdated just broke me. I really don't know how to feel about anything tight now. I cannot believe this is really happening to my generation. In that moment I experienced real despair for the first time in my life. I feel defeated and hopeless.

I know it sounds stupid to you guys but I think my optimism has just been destroyed for good.

A true American.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 10, 2015, 05:09:38 PM

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Elai · November 10, 2015, 06:47:40 PM

Quote from: Διομήδης on November 10, 2015, 05:04:30 PM

cannot believe this is really happening to my generation.

One retard doesn't seem indicative of an entire generation. I understand getting pissed but I think the people that don't agree with free speech are the minority.

Quote

I know it sounds stupid to you guys but I think my optimism has just been destroyed for good.

Optimism is a waste of time anyway.

Mattie G Indahouse · November 11, 2015, 04:32:52 AM

I wonder how many of them support the death penalty and what their stance on better gun control is.

DAS B00T x2 · November 11, 2015, 06:08:14 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on November 11, 2015, 04:32:52 AM

I wonder how many of them support the death penalty and what their stance on better gun control is.

To say that pro-life and pro-death-penalty are incompatible or hypocritical opinions to hold is retarded.
One being is an innocent child who hasn't done anything, the other is a convicted criminal.
It's nearly as retarded as the nuclear arms line that anti-2A'ers spew to make 2A supporters look like fucking nut jobs.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · November 11, 2015, 06:35:34 AM

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 11, 2015, 06:08:14 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on November 11, 2015, 04:32:52 AM
I wonder how many of them support the death penalty and what their stance on better gun control is.
To say that pro-life and pro-death-penalty are incompatible or hypocritical opinions to hold is retarded.
One being is an innocent child who hasn't done anything, the other is a convicted criminal.
It's nearly as retarded as the nuclear arms line that anti-2A'ers spew to make 2A supporters look like fucking nut jobs.

"all lives are valuable no matter what"
"but only sometimes"

DAS B00T x2 · November 11, 2015, 06:38:22 AM

Quote from: Kupo on November 11, 2015, 06:35:34 AM

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 11, 2015, 06:08:14 AM
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on November 11, 2015, 04:32:52 AM
I wonder how many of them support the death penalty and what their stance on better gun control is.
To say that pro-life and pro-death-penalty are incompatible or hypocritical opinions to hold is retarded.
One being is an innocent child who hasn't done anything, the other is a convicted criminal.
It's nearly as retarded as the nuclear arms line that anti-2A'ers spew to make 2A supporters look like fucking nut jobs.
"all lives are valuable no matter what"
"but only sometimes"

Yes, it has a value. That doesn't mean that you can't devalue your existence.