Another thread about suicide

Yeah it's rough when you've got close family who would be devastated if you were gone but that's why I just soldier on, for them.

Save your condescension and sob story. I don't care. I've suffered a lot and I'm not here crying or trying to kill myself.

If you're mentally fucked up, whatever. But don't tell me I don't know what it's like. I'm not here saying "lol it's easy just man up lmao". I'm saying man up, because giving into it doesn't make anything better.

Oh really? Tell me. What do you get for pushing it out and living your life? Pushing through all the hassle and garbage that will inevitably come your way. You might get lucky. You might be happy. But then, oops, bad roll, happiness taken away, like some toy from a child.

And at the end of it all, no matter what you did, no matter who you are, how good or bad, you die. You'll either die alone, or leave somebody behind. And if you choose to just take the shortcut and skip the bullshit? You leave behind hurting upset people.

But get this, if you committed suicide tomorrow, your family would have to deal with it. It might destroy them. It might not. Or you might go out to work tomorrow with a smile on your face and get hit by a drunk driver. In which case your family would have to deal with the same fucking thing. The only difference being whether or not you chose to die, or were hit with a bad roll.

So you say giving in doesn't make it any better.

Well guess what. You don't have a choice. Being the big man on the block and "manning up" doesn't reward you with anything except delaying what's inevitable. Even if you get a lucky roll and manage to avoid lots of bullshit in your life, you're going to have to face up to the inevitability that one day, whatever makes you happy is going to be forcefully taken from you when you die.

So at that point, really, why bother with it all, if it's so keen to just laugh and spit in your face no matter how hard you try?

Exactly what a depressed person would say

No, that's exactly what a logical person would say, depressed or not.

Save your condescension and sob story. I don't care. I've suffered a lot and I'm not here crying or trying to kill myself.

If you're mentally fucked up, whatever. But don't tell me I don't know what it's like. I'm not here saying "lol it's easy just man up lmao". I'm saying man up, because giving into it doesn't make anything better.

Oh really? Tell me. What do you get for pushing it out and living your life? Pushing through all the hassle and garbage that will inevitably come your way. You might get lucky. You might be happy. But then, oops, bad roll, happiness taken away, like some toy from a child.

And at the end of it all, no matter what you did, no matter who you are, how good or bad, you die. You'll either die alone, or leave somebody behind. And if you choose to just take the shortcut and skip the bullshit? You leave behind hurting upset people.

But get this, if you committed suicide tomorrow, your family would have to deal with it. It might destroy them. It might not. Or you might go out to work tomorrow with a smile on your face and get hit by a drunk driver. In which case your family would have to deal with the same fucking thing. The only difference being whether or not you chose to die, or were hit with a bad roll.

So you say giving in doesn't make it any better.

Well guess what. You don't have a choice. Being the big man on the block and "manning up" doesn't reward you with anything except delaying what's inevitable. Even if you get a lucky roll and manage to avoid lots of bullshit in your life, you're going to have to face up to the inevitability that one day, whatever makes you happy is going to be forcefully taken from you when you die.

So at that point, really, why bother with it all, if it's so keen to just laugh and spit in your face no matter how hard you try?

Exactly what a depressed person would say

No, that's exactly what a logical person would say, depressed or not.

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Careful, you'll get banned from the Serious board if you troll.

Save your condescension and sob story. I don't care. I've suffered a lot and I'm not here crying or trying to kill myself.

If you're mentally fucked up, whatever. But don't tell me I don't know what it's like. I'm not here saying "lol it's easy just man up lmao". I'm saying man up, because giving into it doesn't make anything better.

Oh really? Tell me. What do you get for pushing it out and living your life? Pushing through all the hassle and garbage that will inevitably come your way. You might get lucky. You might be happy. But then, oops, bad roll, happiness taken away, like some toy from a child.

And at the end of it all, no matter what you did, no matter who you are, how good or bad, you die. You'll either die alone, or leave somebody behind. And if you choose to just take the shortcut and skip the bullshit? You leave behind hurting upset people.

But get this, if you committed suicide tomorrow, your family would have to deal with it. It might destroy them. It might not. Or you might go out to work tomorrow with a smile on your face and get hit by a drunk driver. In which case your family would have to deal with the same fucking thing. The only difference being whether or not you chose to die, or were hit with a bad roll.

So you say giving in doesn't make it any better.

Well guess what. You don't have a choice. Being the big man on the block and "manning up" doesn't reward you with anything except delaying what's inevitable. Even if you get a lucky roll and manage to avoid lots of bullshit in your life, you're going to have to face up to the inevitability that one day, whatever makes you happy is going to be forcefully taken from you when you die.

So at that point, really, why bother with it all, if it's so keen to just laugh and spit in your face no matter how hard you try?

Exactly what a depressed person would say

No, that's exactly what a logical person would say, depressed or not.

>responds with a meme

Save your condescension and sob story. I don't care. I've suffered a lot and I'm not here crying or trying to kill myself.

If you're mentally fucked up, whatever. But don't tell me I don't know what it's like. I'm not here saying "lol it's easy just man up lmao". I'm saying man up, because giving into it doesn't make anything better.

Oh really? Tell me. What do you get for pushing it out and living your life? Pushing through all the hassle and garbage that will inevitably come your way. You might get lucky. You might be happy. But then, oops, bad roll, happiness taken away, like some toy from a child.

And at the end of it all, no matter what you did, no matter who you are, how good or bad, you die. You'll either die alone, or leave somebody behind. And if you choose to just take the shortcut and skip the bullshit? You leave behind hurting upset people.

But get this, if you committed suicide tomorrow, your family would have to deal with it. It might destroy them. It might not. Or you might go out to work tomorrow with a smile on your face and get hit by a drunk driver. In which case your family would have to deal with the same fucking thing. The only difference being whether or not you chose to die, or were hit with a bad roll.

So you say giving in doesn't make it any better.

Well guess what. You don't have a choice. Being the big man on the block and "manning up" doesn't reward you with anything except delaying what's inevitable. Even if you get a lucky roll and manage to avoid lots of bullshit in your life, you're going to have to face up to the inevitability that one day, whatever makes you happy is going to be forcefully taken from you when you die.

So at that point, really, why bother with it all, if it's so keen to just laugh and spit in your face no matter how hard you try?

Exactly what a depressed person would say

No, that's exactly what a logical person would say, depressed or not.

>responds with a meme

Well such a profoundly edgy and stupid statement will be met with a profoundly meme response

Save your condescension and sob story. I don't care. I've suffered a lot and I'm not here crying or trying to kill myself.

If you're mentally fucked up, whatever. But don't tell me I don't know what it's like. I'm not here saying "lol it's easy just man up lmao". I'm saying man up, because giving into it doesn't make anything better.

Oh really? Tell me. What do you get for pushing it out and living your life? Pushing through all the hassle and garbage that will inevitably come your way. You might get lucky. You might be happy. But then, oops, bad roll, happiness taken away, like some toy from a child.

And at the end of it all, no matter what you did, no matter who you are, how good or bad, you die. You'll either die alone, or leave somebody behind. And if you choose to just take the shortcut and skip the bullshit? You leave behind hurting upset people.

But get this, if you committed suicide tomorrow, your family would have to deal with it. It might destroy them. It might not. Or you might go out to work tomorrow with a smile on your face and get hit by a drunk driver. In which case your family would have to deal with the same fucking thing. The only difference being whether or not you chose to die, or were hit with a bad roll.

So you say giving in doesn't make it any better.

Well guess what. You don't have a choice. Being the big man on the block and "manning up" doesn't reward you with anything except delaying what's inevitable. Even if you get a lucky roll and manage to avoid lots of bullshit in your life, you're going to have to face up to the inevitability that one day, whatever makes you happy is going to be forcefully taken from you when you die.

So at that point, really, why bother with it all, if it's so keen to just laugh and spit in your face no matter how hard you try?

Exactly what a depressed person would say

No, that's exactly what a logical person would say, depressed or not.

>responds with a meme

Well such a profoundly edgy and stupid statement will be met with a profoundly meme response

>calls it edgy and stupid, doesn't even explain why

Save your condescension and sob story. I don't care. I've suffered a lot and I'm not here crying or trying to kill myself.

If you're mentally fucked up, whatever. But don't tell me I don't know what it's like. I'm not here saying "lol it's easy just man up lmao". I'm saying man up, because giving into it doesn't make anything better.

Oh really? Tell me. What do you get for pushing it out and living your life? Pushing through all the hassle and garbage that will inevitably come your way. You might get lucky. You might be happy. But then, oops, bad roll, happiness taken away, like some toy from a child.

And at the end of it all, no matter what you did, no matter who you are, how good or bad, you die. You'll either die alone, or leave somebody behind. And if you choose to just take the shortcut and skip the bullshit? You leave behind hurting upset people.

But get this, if you committed suicide tomorrow, your family would have to deal with it. It might destroy them. It might not. Or you might go out to work tomorrow with a smile on your face and get hit by a drunk driver. In which case your family would have to deal with the same fucking thing. The only difference being whether or not you chose to die, or were hit with a bad roll.

So you say giving in doesn't make it any better.

Well guess what. You don't have a choice. Being the big man on the block and "manning up" doesn't reward you with anything except delaying what's inevitable. Even if you get a lucky roll and manage to avoid lots of bullshit in your life, you're going to have to face up to the inevitability that one day, whatever makes you happy is going to be forcefully taken from you when you die.

So at that point, really, why bother with it all, if it's so keen to just laugh and spit in your face no matter how hard you try?

Because I'm a real nigga

If you're just going to be stupid then please don't post in threads like these.

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Save your condescension and sob story. I don't care. I've suffered a lot and I'm not here crying or trying to kill myself.

If you're mentally fucked up, whatever. But don't tell me I don't know what it's like. I'm not here saying "lol it's easy just man up lmao". I'm saying man up, because giving into it doesn't make anything better.

Oh really? Tell me. What do you get for pushing it out and living your life? Pushing through all the hassle and garbage that will inevitably come your way. You might get lucky. You might be happy. But then, oops, bad roll, happiness taken away, like some toy from a child.

And at the end of it all, no matter what you did, no matter who you are, how good or bad, you die. You'll either die alone, or leave somebody behind. And if you choose to just take the shortcut and skip the bullshit? You leave behind hurting upset people.

But get this, if you committed suicide tomorrow, your family would have to deal with it. It might destroy them. It might not. Or you might go out to work tomorrow with a smile on your face and get hit by a drunk driver. In which case your family would have to deal with the same fucking thing. The only difference being whether or not you chose to die, or were hit with a bad roll.

So you say giving in doesn't make it any better.

Well guess what. You don't have a choice. Being the big man on the block and "manning up" doesn't reward you with anything except delaying what's inevitable. Even if you get a lucky roll and manage to avoid lots of bullshit in your life, you're going to have to face up to the inevitability that one day, whatever makes you happy is going to be forcefully taken from you when you die.

So at that point, really, why bother with it all, if it's so keen to just laugh and spit in your face no matter how hard you try?

Because I'm a real nigga

If you're just going to be stupid then please don't post in threads like these.

I'm being really smart.

No, you're not. You're giving awful advice.

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Save your condescension and sob story. I don't care. I've suffered a lot and I'm not here crying or trying to kill myself.

If you're mentally fucked up, whatever. But don't tell me I don't know what it's like. I'm not here saying "lol it's easy just man up lmao". I'm saying man up, because giving into it doesn't make anything better.

Oh really? Tell me. What do you get for pushing it out and living your life? Pushing through all the hassle and garbage that will inevitably come your way. You might get lucky. You might be happy. But then, oops, bad roll, happiness taken away, like some toy from a child.

And at the end of it all, no matter what you did, no matter who you are, how good or bad, you die. You'll either die alone, or leave somebody behind. And if you choose to just take the shortcut and skip the bullshit? You leave behind hurting upset people.

But get this, if you committed suicide tomorrow, your family would have to deal with it. It might destroy them. It might not. Or you might go out to work tomorrow with a smile on your face and get hit by a drunk driver. In which case your family would have to deal with the same fucking thing. The only difference being whether or not you chose to die, or were hit with a bad roll.

So you say giving in doesn't make it any better.

Well guess what. You don't have a choice. Being the big man on the block and "manning up" doesn't reward you with anything except delaying what's inevitable. Even if you get a lucky roll and manage to avoid lots of bullshit in your life, you're going to have to face up to the inevitability that one day, whatever makes you happy is going to be forcefully taken from you when you die.

So at that point, really, why bother with it all, if it's so keen to just laugh and spit in your face no matter how hard you try?

Because I'm a real nigga

If you're just going to be stupid then please don't post in threads like these.

I'm being really smart.

No, you're not. You're giving awful advice.

You're giving awful advice.

I don't give advice on this subject as I'm in no way qualified to do so. Really though, if you're just going to tell people to "man up" and shitpost then don't bother posting. It's in extremely poor taste.

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Save your condescension and sob story. I don't care. I've suffered a lot and I'm not here crying or trying to kill myself.

If you're mentally fucked up, whatever. But don't tell me I don't know what it's like. I'm not here saying "lol it's easy just man up lmao". I'm saying man up, because giving into it doesn't make anything better.

Oh really? Tell me. What do you get for pushing it out and living your life? Pushing through all the hassle and garbage that will inevitably come your way. You might get lucky. You might be happy. But then, oops, bad roll, happiness taken away, like some toy from a child.

And at the end of it all, no matter what you did, no matter who you are, how good or bad, you die. You'll either die alone, or leave somebody behind. And if you choose to just take the shortcut and skip the bullshit? You leave behind hurting upset people.

But get this, if you committed suicide tomorrow, your family would have to deal with it. It might destroy them. It might not. Or you might go out to work tomorrow with a smile on your face and get hit by a drunk driver. In which case your family would have to deal with the same fucking thing. The only difference being whether or not you chose to die, or were hit with a bad roll.

So you say giving in doesn't make it any better.

Well guess what. You don't have a choice. Being the big man on the block and "manning up" doesn't reward you with anything except delaying what's inevitable. Even if you get a lucky roll and manage to avoid lots of bullshit in your life, you're going to have to face up to the inevitability that one day, whatever makes you happy is going to be forcefully taken from you when you die.

So at that point, really, why bother with it all, if it's so keen to just laugh and spit in your face no matter how hard you try?

Because I'm a real nigga

If you're just going to be stupid then please don't post in threads like these.

I'm being really smart.

No, you're not. You're giving awful advice.

You're giving awful advice.

I don't give advice on this subject as I'm in no way qualified to do so. Really though, if you're just going to tell people to "man up" and shitpost then don't bother posting. It's in extremely poor taste.

Because you're all being way too emotional about this. Like women.

No one here is having an emotional breakdown. They're just talking about their personal experiences with mental health issues. I don't see why that's a bad thing.

I struggled quite a bit with depression and wanting to commit suicide and shit from age 11 through 17. It's been about 5 years since I've had any problems and it's honestly hard to understand what was going through my mind at the time. I've changed a lot since then and I can't really imagine myself being in that type of place again.

I know depression isn't typically something that goes away but hopefully you guys are able to overcome it like I did.

I struggled quite a bit with depression and wanting to commit suicide and shit from age 11 through 17. It's been about 5 years since I've had any problems and it's honestly hard to understand what was going through my mind at the time. I've changed a lot since then and I can't really imagine myself being in that type of place again.

I know depression isn't typically something that goes away but hopefully you guys are able to overcome it like I did.

Agreed.

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I don't know if it was really depression or not but I did go through a period of about a year where I just felt incredibly sad about everything and had little motivation to do anything, but I was pretty capable at hiding it. I got through it by thinking about just how long I'd be alive for and realizing that I'd hate living like that, and I never had the capacity to kill myself, so I forced myself to look for things that I could enjoy, and after finding them I've been fine. But there are times where I suddenly feel awful and have to find something to cheer me up. Things get better OP.

Since we're doing our daily rounds of depression talk and bringing out the dead, here's a question for all of you to ponder. It's a dangerous question. And it's always on my mind, personally. I can't shake it.

My current outlook is that of being tired. I don't see the point in much of anything and I'm losing ground, slowly. So, if I were to take that to any person, a professional, or whoever, all of them would say the same thing. I'm depressed. My outlook is warped, yada yada.

But here's the interesting thought.

From their perspective.

From their perspective, depressed people are the ones with the issue. Because that's how perspectives work. If you're not on our side, you're on the wrong side. Gotta love conformity.

But it doesn't negate reality. The truth is, no matter how well off you are, how happy, how good or bad, you're going to face the same as everybody else. And when your time comes, nobody can help you, nobody can save you, and, most importantly, everything you did won't, and doesn't matter.

So the fact is that truly, the big old universe doesn't care. You mean nothing but what you choose to strive and care for, and to live for. But for EVERY single person, they'll all have to live up to that reality sooner or later. No matter how long the illusion of happiness takes you on your trip. The trip always ends. This is on objective fact about life.

Your trip ends. Making happiness a distraction. Puppet strings, almost.

And if I were to tell this to anybody in person, talk to them in person, like I have, they freak out. It's easy to see. Because the first response they always ask is, "How can you tell me that all this beautiful stuff around you isn't worth enjoying?"

Which is a fair point. If you can enjoy life, then why not? However, it's all the more depressing to me when arguably happy people look at a depressed person and attack them passively like that. It's an immediate escape tactic when they're confronted with something that breaches their sense of safety.

But, I understand, that I'm talking from my perspective.

So the question I ask, is, really, is any one side truly right?  Because that objective fact I stated up above is still a thing. And when looked at logically, does it not make sense to a degree, that rather than dance around on puppet strings only to face the same fucking end no matter what you do, that it makes sense to just cut the bullshit and get down to simple business?

Naturally, everybody in here is going to refute this.

But keep in mind. You're looking at the world through your own eyes, and what makes you feel safe and secure. Remove happiness and what do you have left?

A pretty fucking ugly reality.

i know i fuck with you constantly, but that's just in good fun. you definitely aren't a bad person, and you sure as fuck don't deserve to die. go and see someone, dude. that's truly the best and only thing you can do for yourself.

i know i fuck with you constantly, but that's just in good fun. you definitely aren't a bad person, and you sure as fuck don't deserve to die. go and see someone, dude. that's truly the best and only thing you can do for yourself.

Thanks for not gibing me hell this time, and I agree. I probably should. Its hard to trust psychologists however, and it does cost an arm and a leg.

I'm still a fan of that Sparten Ken video you made btw.

i know i fuck with you constantly, but that's just in good fun. you definitely aren't a bad person, and you sure as fuck don't deserve to die. go and see someone, dude. that's truly the best and only thing you can do for yourself.

Thanks for not gibing me hell this time, and I agree. I probably should. Its hard to trust psychologists however, and it does cost an arm and a leg.

I'm still a fan of that Sparten Ken video you made btw.

Hard to trust psychologists? Why's that?

i know i fuck with you constantly, but that's just in good fun. you definitely aren't a bad person, and you sure as fuck don't deserve to die. go and see someone, dude. that's truly the best and only thing you can do for yourself.

Thanks for not gibing me hell this time, and I agree. I probably should. Its hard to trust psychologists however, and it does cost an arm and a leg.

I'm still a fan of that Sparten Ken video you made btw.

Hard to trust psychologists? Why's that?

I have severe trust issues with most people, and psychologists don't really make it any easier, considering I hardly even know them.

i know i fuck with you constantly, but that's just in good fun. you definitely aren't a bad person, and you sure as fuck don't deserve to die. go and see someone, dude. that's truly the best and only thing you can do for yourself.

Thanks for not gibing me hell this time, and I agree. I probably should. Its hard to trust psychologists however, and it does cost an arm and a leg.

I'm still a fan of that Sparten Ken video you made btw.

Hard to trust psychologists? Why's that?

I have severe trust issues with most people, and psychologists don't really make it any easier, considering I hardly even know them.

I can get that.

I've recently started seeing a psychologist about my trans/depression issues, and she was probably one of the nicest people I've met. I'm not gonna lie and say I wasn't scared of talking to her at first, but it's helped me so much. I really recommend you talk to someone and get help. Their job is to help you, and they can.

i know i fuck with you constantly, but that's just in good fun. you definitely aren't a bad person, and you sure as fuck don't deserve to die. go and see someone, dude. that's truly the best and only thing you can do for yourself.

Thanks for not gibing me hell this time, and I agree. I probably should. Its hard to trust psychologists however, and it does cost an arm and a leg.

I'm still a fan of that Sparten Ken video you made btw.

Hard to trust psychologists? Why's that?

I have severe trust issues with most people, and psychologists don't really make it any easier, considering I hardly even know them.

I can get that.

I've recently started seeing a psychologist about my trans/depression issues, and she was probably one of the nicest people I've met. I'm not gonna lie and say I wasn't scared of talking to her at first, but it's helped me so much. I really recommend you talk to someone and get help. Their job is to help you, and they can.

If that's the case, I'm probably going to want to see one that is at least outside of Glendale.

I'm glad that's working out for you actually Fruit.

You mean nothing but what you choose to strive and care for, and to live for.

I think you already have the answer to your question right there and you don't even realize it. That's the entire trick to life and there's no alternative. You pick the perspective that benefits you the most/fits the situation; not all perspectives are equal because not all provide the same options for you.

I don't think it's a matter of right or wrong perspectives, but a matter of "You're alive right now, what the hell are you going to do with yourself?" and if your perspective's only response is "nothing", then that's a useless perspective.

What you've said reminds me of an interesting discovery I made yesterday: what's infinity times zero? it being equal to zero sounds reasonable, but if zero represents the gradient of a horizontal line, and infinity the gradient of  a vertical line perpendicular to it, then infinity * 0 = -1
So is it -1 or 0 ? the answer is it depends on which is more useful for the situation.

i know i fuck with you constantly, but that's just in good fun. you definitely aren't a bad person, and you sure as fuck don't deserve to die. go and see someone, dude. that's truly the best and only thing you can do for yourself.

Thanks for not gibing me hell this time, and I agree. I probably should. Its hard to trust psychologists however, and it does cost an arm and a leg.

I'm still a fan of that Sparten Ken video you made btw.

i didnt make that, i just uploaded it again after it was taken down

I sometimes think that if you're NOT depressed, you're the one with a problem. Not us.

Not sure how someone can look at the universe and come away with anything but pessimistic depression.

On topic: don't kill yourself.

i know i fuck with you constantly, but that's just in good fun. you definitely aren't a bad person, and you sure as fuck don't deserve to die. go and see someone, dude. that's truly the best and only thing you can do for yourself.

Thanks for not gibing me hell this time, and I agree. I probably should. Its hard to trust psychologists however, and it does cost an arm and a leg.

I'm still a fan of that Sparten Ken video you made btw.

i didnt make that, i just uploaded it again after it was taken down

Oh. I wonder who the original guy was then.

On topic: don't kill yourself.

I'm trying my best not to consider it to be an option.