Andrew Yang 2020

Verbatim · July 16, 2018, 03:12:06 PM

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Give me reasons not to get my hopes up for this guy.

Verbatim · July 16, 2018, 03:16:23 PM

UBI is probably the best idea anyone has ever thought of (not that it's new or anything), but I think basing your entire campaign around it is very dangerous, because (for whatever reason) a lot of people seem highly opposed to the idea. That alone is why I don't see him getting nominated. But right now, I don't think anything needs to happen more.

big dog · July 16, 2018, 04:01:38 PM

UBI is very much necessary right now, thankfully it's becoming talked about a bit more in the UK.

Mega Sceptile · July 16, 2018, 06:08:27 PM

1 question, what is stopping these companies that he would be taxing for UBI from just packing up and fucking off to another country before the taxes get implemented? taxing these massive companies further would just convince them to jump ship to another part of the world so they can keep raking in billions every year.

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Dietrich Six · July 17, 2018, 09:53:18 AM

You shouldn't get you hopes up because if he somehow gets elected he's going to have a very rough time implementing ubi on either side of our ridiculous two party government. No one wants to see that happen and it's a real shame.

Genghis Khan · July 17, 2018, 09:58:13 AM

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Aether · July 17, 2018, 05:16:18 PM

The US government needs to stop losing track of trillions of dollars in defense spending before we can start dishing out a UBI.

Shit should be making national headlines on every news network and yet hardly anyone in the media is talking about it.

Super Irish · July 17, 2018, 06:42:24 PM

It's nice to see it getting brought up, and as a campaign point in America no less. Knowing nothing else, he sounds like an alright candidate.

Kurzgesagt did videos on these topics, and while they don't directly relate, something will inevitably have to be done about the increasing amounts of unemployment that KZ suggest would make half of America's workforce redundant, and their explanation of UBi generally fits the bill. They suggest simply swapping over the administration fees of current benefit systems and using that for UBI, as there isn't as much overhead (i.e. All you need would be some form of ID and residency status, rather than taking into account your income, employment status, rent costs, disability, etc...) but obviously that would differ between countries (e.g. Finland almost works on this system already, by having tax rates at 50% for high earners).

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Unfortunately, I doubt this guy is gonna get a shot at it. He directly targets hi-tech companies benefiting the most from automation, which if the Kurzgesagt video is anything to go by, will be most current mega-companies that have massive lobbying power in the US... you can already see where this is going. All the best to him for 2020.

There's also other concerns. The UK has been rolling out the Universal Credit scheme which is only supposed to combine payments into one, like a UBI would (it doesn't just give you free money though), and it has been slandered as a complete disaster which has increased suffering, suicides, and an increased use of food banks, simply because the system is automated and doesn't into account individuals needs very well if they have multiple problems that require financial support.

It has to be done correctly first time, or millions will suffer who already jump through hoops of current systems.

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Deleted · July 19, 2018, 06:14:56 PM

I love the idea of UBI with all my heart but people are not going to go for it any time soon.

Americans are programed to "REEEEEEEEE" at anything human rights related if it can even vaugely be compared in any way to communism.