Farage didn't break his promise on the NHS

 
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You've all been duped into thinking it because of shitty journalism.

The whole "We'll put the membership fee into the NHS" claim was made by Vote Leave, which he was not a part of. Leave.eu, a separate campaign, was where Farage operated in the run-up to the referendum.


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Never thought that to begin with. Point is that it was a blatant Leave campaign lie which is now becoming obvious after having duped thousands into it. It's a shame that this debate ended up like this, albeit predictable. Besides, as arguably the most publicised Leave campaigner, Farage is equally complicit in this for lacking the courage to address blatant lies but condoning the talking points of the largest Leave group in the UK.
Exactly how is it a lie? It's our money to spend as we choose once we secede. It might've been presented in a glamorised fashion but the fundamental idea is still there.


 
 
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Never thought that to begin with. Point is that it was a blatant Leave campaign lie which is now becoming obvious after having duped thousands into it. It's a shame that this debate ended up like this, albeit predictable. Besides, as arguably the most publicised Leave campaigner, Farage is equally complicit in this for lacking the courage to address blatant lies but condoning the talking points of the largest Leave group in the UK.
Exactly how is it a lie? It's our money to spend as we choose once we secede. It might've been presented in a glamorised fashion but the fundamental idea is still there.
You don't see how "hey guys, we lose 350 million pounds to the EU every single week, so vote Leave, and we'll use all that money to fund the NHS!" is now a blatant lie?

1. There is no 350 million pounds a week lost to the EU. That is a vast exaggeration that does not take into account rebates and Union funding. The real figure of membership fees sent to the Union was only around a 3rd of this incorrect claim.

2. Saying that all of this money will now go to the NHS is equally proposterous. Nige already debunked that not even 2 hours after the results were in. And to argue that it wasn't a lie because he personally didn't say it is pretty facetious. Farage, even more so than Johnson, has been the prominent Leave politician. You and I both know that not a single voter differentiates between these Leave campaign factions. None of them make the distinction between Vote Leave and Leave EU. Both work together, cooperated and campaigned jointly, making little to no distinction between the two of them. To now claim that "oh yeah, but it was the OTHER Leave faction who said this, not me so can't accuse me of lying" after deliberately and knowingly condoning these talking points for weeks is despicable. I've never been the biggest fan of Juncker, but at least the man has the balls to come out the day before the referendum and say that he doesn't see there being a better deal for the UK when those claims are being made by Remainers. It's something populist cowards like Farage could take an example of.

Leave said there would be hundreds of millions a week that they'd spend directly on the NHS. It's probably the main reason that drove tens of thousands of elderly, sick, caretakers or people employed in the health care sector to vote Leave. Now, we see the reluctant admittance that there's absolutely no intention of spending all of that money "saved" on the NHS. It's a blatant lie for the sole purpose of misleading gullible people into voting for them. They'll let it calm down first, of course, and hope the people will forget (which they will). And in a few months or years, the people who were led to believe that there would be an additional hundreds of millions of pounds going directly to the NHS every single week will likely be left in the cold, as the amount of money saved has been exaggerated and won't all be going to the NHS.
It's slightly misleading, not going to deny that, but I wouldn't go as far as to categorise it as a "blatant lie." IIRC we're still expending more money than we're getting back, rebates and other economic jargon included.

And a little tip, would appreciate a cut down on your posts. Gets pretty tedious having to sift through paragraph after paragraph of repeated points you've said in previous threads.
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