Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:24:10 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.I tend to avoid insufferable identity politics, but whatever you classify yourself as, you're simply incorrect either way. Again you're still assuming.
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.I tend to avoid insufferable identity politics, but whatever you classify yourself as, you're simply incorrect either way.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?
Quote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point.
"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:30:57 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:24:10 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.I tend to avoid insufferable identity politics, but whatever you classify yourself as, you're simply incorrect either way. Again you're still assuming.What exactly am I assuming?You've made it perfectly clear that you haven't the foggiest idea about the GG movement or its motives as well as displaying a clear partisan bias against it. Not once in this thread have I called you a SJW or an anti GG member.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:40:46 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:30:57 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:24:10 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.I tend to avoid insufferable identity politics, but whatever you classify yourself as, you're simply incorrect either way. Again you're still assuming.What exactly am I assuming?You've made it perfectly clear that you haven't the foggiest idea about the GG movement or its motives as well as displaying a clear partisan bias against it. Not once in this thread have I called you a SJW or an anti GG member. I never said I did follow GG events. The question of this thread was if Zoe's ex was right to dox her. I know enough about GG and anti GG not to take that issue seriously.
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:49:18 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:40:46 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:30:57 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:24:10 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.I tend to avoid insufferable identity politics, but whatever you classify yourself as, you're simply incorrect either way. Again you're still assuming.What exactly am I assuming?You've made it perfectly clear that you haven't the foggiest idea about the GG movement or its motives as well as displaying a clear partisan bias against it. Not once in this thread have I called you a SJW or an anti GG member. I never said I did follow GG events. The question of this thread was if Zoe's ex was right to dox her. I know enough about GG and anti GG not to take that issue seriously.Well again, there are several discrepancies within her story, most notably that the numbers implicated in the tumblr dox post were found to have no connection to Quinn, and the fact that tumblr's security features don't actually allow multiple people to sign in to one account at once. The number that was listed as "zoe’s Cellphone" connected to a text to land line phone located in Hawaii. It takes Olympian levels of mental gymnastics to try and convince yourself that Quinn isn't a duplicitous character.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:59:44 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:49:18 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:40:46 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:30:57 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:24:10 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.I tend to avoid insufferable identity politics, but whatever you classify yourself as, you're simply incorrect either way. Again you're still assuming.What exactly am I assuming?You've made it perfectly clear that you haven't the foggiest idea about the GG movement or its motives as well as displaying a clear partisan bias against it. Not once in this thread have I called you a SJW or an anti GG member. I never said I did follow GG events. The question of this thread was if Zoe's ex was right to dox her. I know enough about GG and anti GG not to take that issue seriously.Well again, there are several discrepancies within her story, most notably that the numbers implicated in the tumblr dox post were found to have no connection to Quinn, and the fact that tumblr's security features don't actually allow multiple people to sign in to one account at once. The number that was listed as "zoe’s Cellphone" connected to a text to land line phone located in Hawaii. It takes Olympian levels of mental gymnastics to try and convince yourself that Quinn isn't a duplicitous character. I'm talking about the post her ex made about all the alleged cheating she did.
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 11:06:03 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:59:44 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:49:18 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:40:46 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:30:57 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:24:10 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.I tend to avoid insufferable identity politics, but whatever you classify yourself as, you're simply incorrect either way. Again you're still assuming.What exactly am I assuming?You've made it perfectly clear that you haven't the foggiest idea about the GG movement or its motives as well as displaying a clear partisan bias against it. Not once in this thread have I called you a SJW or an anti GG member. I never said I did follow GG events. The question of this thread was if Zoe's ex was right to dox her. I know enough about GG and anti GG not to take that issue seriously.Well again, there are several discrepancies within her story, most notably that the numbers implicated in the tumblr dox post were found to have no connection to Quinn, and the fact that tumblr's security features don't actually allow multiple people to sign in to one account at once. The number that was listed as "zoe’s Cellphone" connected to a text to land line phone located in Hawaii. It takes Olympian levels of mental gymnastics to try and convince yourself that Quinn isn't a duplicitous character. I'm talking about the post her ex made about all the alleged cheating she did.You specified the doxxing controversy so I illustrated the inconsistencies in the doxxing accusation?But anyway, Gjoni's post wasn't harassment. What was originally "hey, she can't do this, this is ethically dubious journalism" got misconstrued as "ZOMG SLOOTSHAMING SHE JUST A STRONK INDIEPENDONT WOMYN WHO CAN FUCK WHOEVER SHE WANTS." The Zoe Post is perfectly credible and amiably highlights the conflicts of interest she was involved in.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 11:11:14 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 11:06:03 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:59:44 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:49:18 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:40:46 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:30:57 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:24:10 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.I tend to avoid insufferable identity politics, but whatever you classify yourself as, you're simply incorrect either way. Again you're still assuming.What exactly am I assuming?You've made it perfectly clear that you haven't the foggiest idea about the GG movement or its motives as well as displaying a clear partisan bias against it. Not once in this thread have I called you a SJW or an anti GG member. I never said I did follow GG events. The question of this thread was if Zoe's ex was right to dox her. I know enough about GG and anti GG not to take that issue seriously.Well again, there are several discrepancies within her story, most notably that the numbers implicated in the tumblr dox post were found to have no connection to Quinn, and the fact that tumblr's security features don't actually allow multiple people to sign in to one account at once. The number that was listed as "zoe’s Cellphone" connected to a text to land line phone located in Hawaii. It takes Olympian levels of mental gymnastics to try and convince yourself that Quinn isn't a duplicitous character. I'm talking about the post her ex made about all the alleged cheating she did.You specified the doxxing controversy so I illustrated the inconsistencies in the doxxing accusation?But anyway, Gjoni's post wasn't harassment. What was originally "hey, she can't do this, this is ethically dubious journalism" got misconstrued as "ZOMG SLOOTSHAMING SHE JUST A STRONK INDIEPENDONT WOMYN WHO CAN FUCK WHOEVER SHE WANTS." The Zoe Post is perfectly credible and amiably highlights the conflicts of interest she was involved in. I was semi aware of things after zoepost but for right now I only care about the beginning ( for the moment). His post might not be considered harassment but the videos etc that came out soon after kinda were.
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 11:13:55 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 11:11:14 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 11:06:03 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:59:44 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:49:18 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:40:46 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:30:57 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:24:10 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.I tend to avoid insufferable identity politics, but whatever you classify yourself as, you're simply incorrect either way. Again you're still assuming.What exactly am I assuming?You've made it perfectly clear that you haven't the foggiest idea about the GG movement or its motives as well as displaying a clear partisan bias against it. Not once in this thread have I called you a SJW or an anti GG member. I never said I did follow GG events. The question of this thread was if Zoe's ex was right to dox her. I know enough about GG and anti GG not to take that issue seriously.Well again, there are several discrepancies within her story, most notably that the numbers implicated in the tumblr dox post were found to have no connection to Quinn, and the fact that tumblr's security features don't actually allow multiple people to sign in to one account at once. The number that was listed as "zoe’s Cellphone" connected to a text to land line phone located in Hawaii. It takes Olympian levels of mental gymnastics to try and convince yourself that Quinn isn't a duplicitous character. I'm talking about the post her ex made about all the alleged cheating she did.You specified the doxxing controversy so I illustrated the inconsistencies in the doxxing accusation?But anyway, Gjoni's post wasn't harassment. What was originally "hey, she can't do this, this is ethically dubious journalism" got misconstrued as "ZOMG SLOOTSHAMING SHE JUST A STRONK INDIEPENDONT WOMYN WHO CAN FUCK WHOEVER SHE WANTS." The Zoe Post is perfectly credible and amiably highlights the conflicts of interest she was involved in. I was semi aware of things after zoepost but for right now I only care about the beginning ( for the moment). His post might not be considered harassment but the videos etc that came out soon after kinda were.Well she did file a restraining order against him effectively restricting him from commenting on anything to do with Quinn and violating his First Amendment Rights.I've never heard of these videos, but I'm sure they're probably not overly pernicious (certainly not to any normal person's standard anyway). Got a link to them?
Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 11:18:41 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 11:13:55 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 11:11:14 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 11:06:03 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:59:44 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:49:18 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:40:46 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:30:57 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:24:10 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:27:13 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AMQuote from: BrenMan 94 on May 06, 2015, 09:12:21 AM"Games journalism" is bullshit. To be honest, I couldn't give a shit about the personal lives of game developers/"journalists". All this talk of "muh journalistic integrity" and "muh ethics" has become just as mind-numbing as the SJWs complaining about "muh tropes" and "muh sexism".In the grand scheme of things, video games aren't that important, and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.That's not really the crux of our argument though. We recognise that in the wider scope of social issues, ethical journalistic practices isn't going to be at the top of the list. Still, it was an underlying problem that had been niggling gamers for a while, and GG was the tipping point. So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Idk, I guess the Sarkeesian scandal and the dissatisfaction with censorious third wave tumblr feminism had a part to play. Whatever happened, happened, and now we're here. The controversy with Quinn was the precipice for a variety of reasons. Yet none of those were as bad as what the triple A industry gets away with. Funny.GG takes issue with them as well. You would know this if you took the time to research GG and not what the leftist groupthink spoonfeed you. Again you're assuming that I'm from the SJW anti-gamergate.I tend to avoid insufferable identity politics, but whatever you classify yourself as, you're simply incorrect either way. Again you're still assuming.What exactly am I assuming?You've made it perfectly clear that you haven't the foggiest idea about the GG movement or its motives as well as displaying a clear partisan bias against it. Not once in this thread have I called you a SJW or an anti GG member. I never said I did follow GG events. The question of this thread was if Zoe's ex was right to dox her. I know enough about GG and anti GG not to take that issue seriously.Well again, there are several discrepancies within her story, most notably that the numbers implicated in the tumblr dox post were found to have no connection to Quinn, and the fact that tumblr's security features don't actually allow multiple people to sign in to one account at once. The number that was listed as "zoe’s Cellphone" connected to a text to land line phone located in Hawaii. It takes Olympian levels of mental gymnastics to try and convince yourself that Quinn isn't a duplicitous character. I'm talking about the post her ex made about all the alleged cheating she did.You specified the doxxing controversy so I illustrated the inconsistencies in the doxxing accusation?But anyway, Gjoni's post wasn't harassment. What was originally "hey, she can't do this, this is ethically dubious journalism" got misconstrued as "ZOMG SLOOTSHAMING SHE JUST A STRONK INDIEPENDONT WOMYN WHO CAN FUCK WHOEVER SHE WANTS." The Zoe Post is perfectly credible and amiably highlights the conflicts of interest she was involved in. I was semi aware of things after zoepost but for right now I only care about the beginning ( for the moment). His post might not be considered harassment but the videos etc that came out soon after kinda were.Well she did file a restraining order against him effectively restricting him from commenting on anything to do with Quinn and violating his First Amendment Rights.I've never heard of these videos, but I'm sure they're probably not overly pernicious (certainly not to any normal person's standard anyway). Got a link to them? IA's videos were taken down and MundaneMatts is still there.
So why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 09:18:22 AMSo why did GG become a thing after Zoe Quinn and not before when we all knew IGN, Activsion and EA etc were doing it for the best part of a decade?Because Zoe Quinn managed to get favourable reviews and good press for a shit game because she fucked some guys.
Lol. Kiyo guys: >people who draw pictures of mohammed deserve what's coming to them >guy in an emotionally abusive relationship reveals ethical flaws in gaming journalism and he's the bad guyBrilliant.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 06, 2015, 08:26:56 AMQuote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 08:21:05 AMQuote from: Jocephalopod on May 06, 2015, 08:03:22 AMWhat the fuck even is gamergate? Basically an anti SJW movement who harass people online and call it "ethics in games journalism". Just saying what it objectively is. Anti-GG says they're harassers and GG says they're for "ethics in games journalism".
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 08:21:05 AMQuote from: Jocephalopod on May 06, 2015, 08:03:22 AMWhat the fuck even is gamergate? Basically an anti SJW movement who harass people online and call it "ethics in games journalism".
Quote from: Jocephalopod on May 06, 2015, 08:03:22 AMWhat the fuck even is gamergate? Basically an anti SJW movement who harass people online and call it "ethics in games journalism".
What the fuck even is gamergate?
> Gets trolled> Takes it personally.
> Zoe Quinns personal life gets exposed because of an angry ex. Got whats coming to her.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on May 06, 2015, 11:42:43 AMLol. Kiyo guys: >people who draw pictures of mohammed deserve what's coming to them >guy in an emotionally abusive relationship reveals ethical flaws in gaming journalism and he's the bad guyBrilliant.Lol. Meta> Gets trolled> Takes it personally.> Republican gets outted for sending unwanted pics. Is somehow the victim> Zoe Quinns personal life gets exposed because of an angry ex. Got whats coming to her.
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 11:52:11 AM> Gets trolled> Takes it personally.>admits to not being serious>expects to be taken seriouslyQuote> Zoe Quinns personal life gets exposed because of an angry ex. Got whats coming to her.Except I didn't say that. You have no idea what my position is on his exposure; stop shoehorning in your biases.
You're the one that said he was the victim though.
Quote from: Magos Domina on May 06, 2015, 11:52:11 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on May 06, 2015, 11:42:43 AMLol. Kiyo guys: >people who draw pictures of mohammed deserve what's coming to them >guy in an emotionally abusive relationship reveals ethical flaws in gaming journalism and he's the bad guyBrilliant.Lol. Meta> Gets trolled> Takes it personally.> Republican gets outted for sending unwanted pics. Is somehow the victim> Zoe Quinns personal life gets exposed because of an angry ex. Got whats coming to her.
A serious question about #GG
