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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Hanging is cheaper for the taxpayer.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
So would you agree that any and all murderers that have irrefutable physical evidence (non-circumstantial) against them should be executed immediately?
No.

Only the incurably psychopathic.


 
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.


 
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
How is hooking someone up to an electric chair any different?
What about soldiers at war? Psychological impact is inevitable no matter what.
The chair is just barbaric and shouldn't be considered anymore by anyone.


 
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I have to disagree. If someone takes a life why do they deserve to keep theirs?
Because the judicial system can't be atomistic. If you have a chance to reform a person, you should do it purely on utilitarian grounds. Most murders are crimes of passion or "necessity".


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I'll support it at VERY heinous crimes. I'm talking about mass-murder, serial killing, terrorist attacks; that sort of stuff, but only if  DNA and forensics prove without a doubt that the person in question is guilty.

Although if the prison system were to change and act more like Russian prisons, then I'd rather have them serve time than die because that would be a far worse experience than death. Russian prisons basically have everybody on 23 hour lockdown with no way for inmates to mingle like in American prisons, meet new people, and extend their criminal enterprises. That's what we fucking need here, none of this liberal rehab B.S


 
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
How is hooking someone up to an electric chair any different?
What about soldiers at war? Psychological impact is inevitable no matter what.
The chair is just barbaric and shouldn't be considered anymore by anyone.
Regardless. No matter the method, there's still going to be an impact on the people doing the executions, unless they're properly conditioned for the job.
You're not wrong, which is why I feel that (since the death penalty obviously isn't going away anytime soon) we need to detach human interaction from the process as much as possible.


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The death penalty is never justified. I don't care if we captured Hitler, there's never an excuse for government-mandated murder.


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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
Tell that to the Taliban and their public executions at the Ghazi Stadium. Apparently the Taliban would tie up a criminal at a post or whatever, set up some old Soviet machine guns, and let the family of the dead victim rain down fire on the tied up person


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The death penalty is never justified. I don't care if we captured Hitler, there's never an excuse for government-mandated murder.
Say Hitler was captured.
Should taxpayers should have to pay for Hitler to be locked up for the rest of his lifetime?
Yes. Though prisoners in general shouldn't just sit around all day, they should be forced to work for their free room and board.


 
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
Tell that to the Taliban and their public executions at the Ghazi Stadium. Apparently the Taliban would tie up a criminal at a post or whatever, set up some old Soviet machine guns, and let the family of the dead victim rain down fire on the tied up person
Jihadists have no conscience, Kinder. If they did, they clearly wouldn't be running around the middle east the way they are.
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
Tell that to the Taliban and their public executions at the Ghazi Stadium. Apparently the Taliban would tie up a criminal at a post or whatever, set up some old Soviet machine guns, and let the family of the dead victim rain down fire on the tied up person
Jihadists have no conscience, Kinder. If they did, they clearly wouldn't be running around the middle east the way they are.
Yeah, but they just had regular families come and pull the trigger multiple times. There's no psychological effects when somebody wants revenge


 
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There's no psychological effects when somebody wants revenge
Arguable, especially on the grounds of feeding revenge itself.


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The death penalty is never justified. I don't care if we captured Hitler, there's never an excuse for government-mandated murder.
Rehab is a giant waste of money. The public shouldn't have to pay for a prisoner to live. Especially the state they get to live in. Nowadays prisoners live in pretty damn good conditions.
I'd rather waste all of our money than have our government be one step closer to complete immorality. I do agree that prisons are way too cushy, though. Give prisoners a dirt floor, bread three times a day, and water. And make them work for that.
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Do you support it or not? And it what contexts?
Yes, for crimes against children and animals. You burn a puppy to death, you shouldn't be allowed to steal everyone else's oxygen any more. You rape a child, you shouldn't be allowed to continue your existence. End of.

Do you follow the belief of an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth or do you believe in rehabilitation?
I do believe in rehabilitation, for some. Some people simply cannot be rehabilitated, they will either spend their life in jail or be released and harm an innocent. It is kinder, quicker and simpler to execute them and be done with it.
Eye for an Eye can be satisfying, but it doesn't actually lead to a better society. Just a more brutal one.

Do you support forms of execution like hanging and the firing squad?
Lethal Injection is a nice idea but executed terribly (badum tish), it should simply be scrapped. The chair should also be scrapped, this isn't the fucking dark ages anymore. Hanging or Firing Squad, but as Das has pointed out, it's going to lead to some serious psychological problems for those pulling the triggers, unless you hire psychopaths to do it that is <.<

So hanging is preferable.

I just look at it as the simplest, most efficient way to solve a problem. Some people are a danger to the health of society, some are lower than scum and some are beyond any form of help. Protecting the innocent from harm should be the priority in the justice system, if someone is in any way likely to kill, rape or maim again then they should just be hanged and be done with it. Their suffering is at a quick end, they don't waste taxpayer's money rotting in a cell playing on a playstation and those who have been wronged can be at peace.

It doesn't have to be arbitrary and it should only be used for extreme cases where there is irrefutable DNA, video or forensic evidence. EWT is unreliable as fuck and should NEVER EVER be the basis for a death penalty sentence.


 
 
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Do you support it or not? And it what contexts?
Yes, for crimes against children and animals. You burn a puppy to death, you shouldn't be allowed to steal everyone else's oxygen any more. You rape a child, you shouldn't be allowed to continue your existence. End of.

Do you follow the belief of an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth or do you believe in rehabilitation?
I do believe in rehabilitation, for some. Some people simply cannot be rehabilitated, they will either spend their life in jail or be released and harm an innocent. It is kinder, quicker and simpler to execute them and be done with it.
Eye for an Eye can be satisfying, but it doesn't actually lead to a better society. Just a more brutal one.

Do you support forms of execution like hanging and the firing squad?
Lethal Injection is a nice idea but executed terribly (badum tish), it should simply be scrapped. The chair should also be scrapped, this isn't the fucking dark ages anymore. Hanging or Firing Squad, but as Das has pointed out, it's going to lead to some serious psychological problems for those pulling the triggers, unless you hire psychopaths to do it that is <.<

So hanging is preferable.

I just look at it as the simplest, most efficient way to solve a problem. Some people are a danger to the health of society, some are lower than scum and some are beyond any form of help. Protecting the innocent from harm should be the priority in the justice system, if someone is in any way likely to kill, rape or maim again then they should just be hanged and be done with it. Their suffering is at a quick end, they don't waste taxpayer's money rotting in a cell playing on a playstation and those who have been wronged can be at peace.

It doesn't have to be arbitrary and it should only be used for extreme cases where there is irrefutable DNA, video or forensic evidence. EWT is unreliable as fuck and should NEVER EVER be the basis for a death penalty sentence.
You have a beautiful way of saying things way better than I ever could.

Heh, the same can be said of you <.<


 
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That awkward moment when you read a comment by DAS where he interprets a returned compliment as something else ._.



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That awkward moment when you read a comment by DAS where he interprets a returned compliment as something else ._.



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They have infested my mind like a plague, I bet I'll end up sending in my CV with them all over it ._.

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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Russian prisons basically have everybody on 23 hour lockdown with no way for inmates to mingle like in American prisons, meet new people, and extend their criminal enterprises. That's what we fucking need here, none of this liberal rehab B.S
Yeah, because the Russians don't have a fucking crime problem.