Denying a problem exists

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There may be a scientific answer for why conservatives and liberals disagree so vehemently over the existence of issues like climate change and specific types of crime.

A new study from Duke University finds that people will evaluate scientific evidence based on whether they view its policy implications as politically desirable. If they don't, then they tend to deny the problem even exists.

“Logically, the proposed solution to a problem, such as an increase in government regulation or an extension of the free market, should not influence one’s belief in the problem. However, we find it does,” said co-author Troy Campbell, a Ph.D. candidate at Duke's Fuqua School of Business. “The cure can be more immediately threatening than the problem.”

The study, "Solution Aversion: On the Relation Between Ideology and Motivated Disbelief," appears in the November issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (viewable at http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/107/5/809/).

The researchers conducted three experiments (with samples ranging from 120 to 188 participants) on three different issues -- climate change, air pollution that harms lungs, and crime.

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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I feel I should point out liberals can be just as bad as conservatives when it comes to going against the push of science.

Namely when it comes to agriculture and energy.


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I feel I should point out liberals can be just as bad as conservatives when it comes to going against the push of science.

Namely when it comes to agriculture and energy.
I don't disagree. People from all sides do this.


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This is news?


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This is news?
From a research standpoint, I think so. I'm pretty sure we all knew it was happening, though.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Climate change isn't a "problem." It's a natural occurrence we have to work around.
A good place to start would be reduced carbon usage.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Climate change isn't a "problem." It's a natural occurrence we have to work around.
A good place to start would be reduced carbon usage.

Which might be entirely pointless and wasteful. However, I'm not against reducing pollution with clean energy just because pollution is extremely horrible. I don't need to accept other unproven theories to encourage that.
I don't really know what there is to reject. Do you accept that carbon dioxide and methane cause infrared to be trapped within the atmosphere?


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Temperature drives CO2, not the other way around.
Source?


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.

Except if the process of lag is the same now as it once was, and there's no reason to think otherwise, we know from carbon isotopes that recent warming simply cannot be accounted for without the variable of human action.

I'd just like to stress that we know this. The models just don't allow for the reverse causality you're espousing.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Except it can due to the sun's cycles.
The sun's output simply hasn't been significant enough to cause any sort of exponential warming over the past 30 years. Not to mention, warming has shown itself only in the troposphere. If the sun were responsible for this, we would expect to see the stratosphere also warming, but this simply isn't the case.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Except it can due to the sun's cycles.
The sun's output simply hasn't been significant enough to cause any sort of exponential warming over the past 30 years. Not to mention, warming has shown itself only in the troposphere. If the sun were responsible for this, we would expect to see the stratosphere also warming, but this simply isn't the case.

Plenty of sources suggest it does, though, which is why I hate debating this topic.
And yet none of those sources come from significant scientific bodies.

You're free to believe what you want, but when it isn't even recognised by any serious institution devoted to science then don't expect people to take those beliefs seriously.


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Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 06:28:31 PM by Camnator


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How about regardless, we just develop new industries for alternative energy but keep the current flow until new energy has been firmly established and can take over the current? Everybody wins with this as we're promoting smarter alternatives but at the same time radical changes to what we use won't be the subject to economic decline