Quote from: Icy on January 20, 2016, 03:28:43 PM

Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2016, 03:24:45 PM

Quote from: Icy on January 20, 2016, 03:22:36 PM

This is terribly innacurate and cringeworthy.

Talk to me in a year.

You underestimate how many people despise Hillary.

Meanwhile, you underestimate the deep fractures that continue to grow within the GOP base since 2008, their complete failure to reach out to minority voters (Who are increasingly becoming a larger percentage of the voting population than white voters), and the more unified stance of the Democratic Party (While fracturing as well, it is not nearly as deep...yet).

Not underestimating that at all. Like you said, Dems are fractured too. And will be completely fractured if Bernie gets the nom.

Not really - while Bernie is struggling to appeal to some voting communities that supported Obama in 2008, a well picked VP candidate can easily solve that struggle. Meanwhile, Clinton will support Sanders if she doesn't get the nomination - she knows that is best for the party, and she isn't going to try and run as an independent.

Their fracturing is not nearly as bad, far from it.

The majority of minorities will vote democrat no matter what. Nothing can be said or done to change that.

Well...yes, because when the Republican frontrunner is supported by white supremacy groups, I fail to see why they would support a GOP candidate.

The longer the GOP fails to give significant outreach to the minorities and quit going to the right, the sooner they are going to go extinct as a political party.

Nice response, really addresses my points.

Let me know when Meta gets here, I'll have this discussion with him.

People say Sanders stands no chance against someone like Trump, but I think you have it all wrong. In fact I think he's the most dangerous opponent to Trump. Both extremes on both ends, but Sanders advantage is he is passionate and means everything he says. It's why every single debate he's slowly gaining on Hillary, and pointed out a lot of crap with her. It's the reason she is now legit concerned and the media is finally taking him seriously.

Everyone has been underestimating him this entire time, and this election cycle on both ends has proven the establishment and conventional campaigning will not win you anything. At this point, any candidate who is part of the establishment has zero chance of winning on the Republican side, and one is proving he is giving Hillary a run for her money on the other.