i just dont understand why you'd even want to get married if not for religious reasons.
Quote from: Eli on September 04, 2016, 06:15:00 PMi just dont understand why you'd even want to get married if not for religious reasons.>Tax breaks>Social pressure to maintain a monogomous relationship (though it seems to be fading)>Tradition>The experience (holding a large social celebration)>Legal benefits (besides taxes)
Quote from: Word Wizard on September 04, 2016, 06:21:17 PMQuote from: Eli on September 04, 2016, 06:15:00 PMi just dont understand why you'd even want to get married if not for religious reasons.>Tax breaks>Social pressure to maintain a monogomous relationship (though it seems to be fading)>Tradition>The experience (holding a large social celebration)>Legal benefits (besides taxes)commonlaw provides all of those tax and legal benefits
marriage is a religious function
Quote from: Eli on September 04, 2016, 06:15:00 PMi just dont understand why you'd even want to get married if not for religious reasons.Same reason a non religious person would celebrate Christmas.
tfw the priest in your area wasn't involved in a pedophilia cover up throughout the 70's, 80's and 90's so you have to find a new one
You're not from America right? As far as I know (Turkey made a good post on this a while ago), they aren't equal in the U.S.
Not inherently/necessarily.
Quote from: Maverick on September 04, 2016, 07:19:06 PMQuote from: Eli on September 04, 2016, 06:15:00 PMi just dont understand why you'd even want to get married if not for religious reasons.Same reason a non religious person would celebrate Christmas.equally as stupid
Jeremiah 10:2 - 4Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Quote from: Eli on September 05, 2016, 10:21:02 AMQuote from: Maverick on September 04, 2016, 07:19:06 PMQuote from: Eli on September 04, 2016, 06:15:00 PMi just dont understand why you'd even want to get married if not for religious reasons.Same reason a non religious person would celebrate Christmas.equally as stupidExcept not even remotely, because Christmas isn't even a Christian holiday. The Bible makes no mention of the exact birthdate of Christ (it's almost certainly not December 25th), and it's widely considered to be a pagan (see: sacrilegious) holiday that is no more about religious sacrament today than is having a birthday party for your child.It's even condemned in the Bible, which, frankly, is all the more reason for atheists to celebrate it.QuoteJeremiah 10:2 - 4Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Except not even remotely, because Christmas isn't even a Christian holiday. The Bible makes no mention of the exact birthdate of Christ (it's almost certainly not December 25th), and it's widely considered to be a pagan (see: sacrilegious) holiday that is no more about religious sacrament today than is having a birthday party for your child.It's even condemned in the Bible, which, frankly, is all the more reason for atheists to celebrate it.QuoteJeremiah 10:2 - 4Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
i never said christmas was a religious holiday
It's not a pagan holiday; it has its origins in pagan Saturnalia, but was adopted by the Catholics.
Quote from: TurquíaHiriente on September 05, 2016, 11:04:22 AMIt's not a pagan holiday; it has its origins in pagan Saturnalia, but was adopted by the Catholics.Adopted from pagan tradition means not pagan?
Quote from: Eli on September 05, 2016, 10:57:49 AMi never said christmas was a religious holidayTherefore, it's asinine to question why non-religious people would celebrate it.
Quote from: Verbatim on September 05, 2016, 11:13:57 AMQuote from: Eli on September 05, 2016, 10:57:49 AMi never said christmas was a religious holidayTherefore, it's asinine to question why non-religious people would celebrate it.no it isn'tit's a pointless holidayalsofinally got it
Quote from: Word Wizard on September 04, 2016, 06:42:45 PMYou're not from America right? As far as I know (Turkey made a good post on this a while ago), they aren't equal in the U.S.they should be
QuoteNot inherently/necessarily.i disagree
but the way you responded to Maverick's post seemed to imply that you thought only Christians should celebrate Christmas, or something like that.
What about a social contract/legally binding agreement between two individuals is inherently religious? And if it was, why should it have to stay that way?
Quote from: Word Wizard on September 04, 2016, 06:21:17 PMQuote from: Eli on September 04, 2016, 06:15:00 PMi just dont understand why you'd even want to get married if not for religious reasons.>Tax breaks>Social pressure to maintain a monogomous relationship (though it seems to be fading)>Tradition>The experience (holding a large social celebration)>Legal benefits (besides taxes)commonlaw provides all of those tax and legal benefitsmarriage is a religious function
"Pope Francis is not a cuck he a good strong Catholic who dindu gay marriage"
